Napoleon (2023)

This was shit. Basically felt like a clip show with no narrative purpose other than to make Napoleon look pathetic and like a clown.

I guess I should have expected it since Ridley Scott is a Brit. But it's kinda amusing that we are more than 200 years out from his defeat and the Brits are stills seething about him and churning out propaganda.

I enjoyed it, sets, design and costume were spectacular, but it was FAR slower than I thought it would be and Phoenix is not at his best here, great in some scenes, dialing it in and bored in others.

Should have been a film in two 3hr parts, considering how much has to be covered.

I want to see it again to really get a better feel.

Edit: IMO, Scott should have spent more time on Napoleon's top-shelf war genius and less on his personal life.

^ Wanting to see it again?? That sounds like high praise coming from the 'tard!!

I've got tentative plans to see in the theater in a week or two (that is if it's still around in theaters).

I watch many movies at least two times, especially epic types and heavy scifi, things settle in better on the second viewing imo.

But I can already tell this won't be another Gladiator, where I've seen in 15+ times and can watch it most any time. I think two viewings will be it for me.

Well supposedly there will be a 4-hour version going to streaming, so maybe just wait to watch that?

I'd normally just wait for the Extended cut, but I'm still considering seeing this on the big screen.

Just saw this. Treated myself.

Enjoyed the Ridley Scott production value and the performances from the 2 lead actors, but the film lacked a narrative. It's just kind of dry. I doubt I'll be interested enough to sit through a 4-hour version when it goes to streaming.

I sincerely hope they've written something much more compelling for the Gladiator sequel.

Originally posted by Robtard
That is the worst criticism I've ever heard of Dune.

It's the best criticism you've ever heard of Dune.

I've read a shit-ton of WH40K novels (thanks again for the initial recommends), while there are many that are good and outright fun reads, I can't say they're downright better scifi than Dune was.

All 40k novels are dumb schlock but the better ones are at least fun. Dune is as dry as a girl surrounded by right wingers and is in fact more poorly written than your average 40kschlock. Herbert simply could not write, he changes perspective in his writing mid-paragraph constantly and at times even mid-sentence, he overuses certain phrases (mostly so and so "wet their lips"😉 it becomes grating, he sucks my friend. He's no Nabokov, McCarthy or Lord Dunsany is what I'm saying, nor even a Tolkien or an Abnett.

Which scifi books/works specifically are you thinking about when saying "much better speculative fiction out there that touches on heavy ideas with more grace than Dune"?

To name a few, A Voyage to Arcturus by David Lindsey, Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Roadside Picnic by the Strugatsky Brothers, Frankenstein by Mary Shelley. If you expand it to include other speculative fiction works and not just science fiction, The Once and Future King by T.H. White (a shame about the insane frothing anti-Irish racism though), 1984 by George Orwell, pretty much the entire Legendarium by JRR Tolkien, shit, his work is less compelling than a good Superman comic and is considerably less fun.

All in all I'm glad he's dead and that is son is raping his legacy in revenge for his dad disowning his other son for being gay. 👆

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Finally saw this today. What a load of shite

I saw it for a second time whenever it hit the torrents many month's back, found myself bored for a whole lot of it, has not aged well for me. Which is a shame considering the directer and topic.