Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's there to be confused about? He clearly said he possessed stellar mass. Stellar = star.
This ft?
No.
The problem is that you have no idea what the sequence of events is.
Originally posted by Smurph
1. The weight of a star is holding him down.
2. When he is next standing, the spear has been removed.There is no panel depicting Hulk lifting the spear. You are inferring that it happened, but it is at least equally possible that Proxima first removed the spear, allowing Hulk to get up.
You don't know the order of events, and the fact that you keep ignoring that hole in your argument just underlines your bias.
Exact opposite of the Lobo feat.
Well, he's not actually standing, is he? He's on all fours when the spear is inside him. He's kneeling after the spear is pulled out of him. He never stands during this sequence.
And, again, there is no actual panel of him "lifting" the star. You're inferring that it happened by arguing about what must have happened in order for her to pull the spear at that angle. I read your argument and then I re-read the comic and then I just do the "ehhh" shrug.
(which is more than Hulk does in these panels)
And then you get butthurt that nobody acknowledges this as a feat. Round and round we go.
Originally posted by Smurph
Well, he's not actually standing, is he? He's on all fours when the spear is inside him. He's kneeling after the spear is pulled out of him. He never stands during this sequence.And, again, there is no actual panel of him "lifting" the star. You're inferring that it happened by arguing about what must have happened in order for her to pull the spear at that angle. I read your argument and then I re-read the comic and then I just do the "ehhh" shrug.
(which is more than Hulk does in these panels)
And then you get butthurt that nobody acknowledges this as a feat. Round and round we go.
He wasn't on all fours when she snatched the spear from his chest. He was on his ft.
We see her snatch the spear from him and we see the position he's in. Trying to change what is shown on panel is ludicrous.
The scan literally tells us the weight of a star was holding him down. The scan I posted above have him standing. I'm not the only person who accept this showing as a ft.
Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't on all fours when she snatched the spear from his chest. He was on his ft.We see her snatch the spear from him and we see the position he's in. Trying to change what is shown on panel is ludicrous.
The scan literally tells us the weight of a star was holding him down. The scan I posted above have him standing. I'm not the only person who accept this showing as a ft.
Originally posted by carver9
Yes, the same way Earth held the weight of a sun. 😃
You fail to see my point. I repeat:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Word of advice when dealing with Carver - he honestly thinks people are out to get him, and he stubbornly digs in. You need to lead him slowly, step by step. He thinks a certain way, then will quickly speed read your post and latch onto random words then argue against them.Carver, post the EXACT panel (crop it if needed) which shows Hulk FIRST standing up, THEN PM removing the spear. That's what Smurph and other have been arguing this entire past decade or so.
Reread that part of our posts. Stop and think. Read again. Then post. Prove this sequence of events:
1ST: HULK STANDS UP
2ND: PM REMOVES SPEAR.If you can't, then it's equally likely the order is reversed, i.e. she removed the spear first, then he stood up.
Originally posted by carver9
I already proved it. The scan where she pulls the spear out, Hulk was standing. We see the motion of the spear, when she pulled it out, and what position Hulk was in when he pulled the spear out. I'm about to test something outside of the comic vs forum.
Edit: in any case, it's different from Lobo. You are just focussing on 'herp derp, character moves star weight' - but the two instances are different. In Lobo's case, your only argument against it is 'comic physics' - hilarious because the comic specifically laughs at that argument, and because that's not the argument people are using for Hulk.
In Hulk's case, not only is it comics physics, but ALSO, the sequence of events need to be proven (FIRST Hulk stands up, THEN PM removes spear).
And you can't prove it. No one can.
Originally posted by carver9Those... are his knees? Not his feet?
He wasn't on all fours when she snatched the spear from his chest. He was on his ft.
He just goes from on all fours to kneeling upright and we only see him kneel upright after the spear is out.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But how do you prove that, when it's equally likely from the evidence that he stands up after the spear was pulled out? Remember to ask that in the other forums/threads as well.
I'm going by what's shown on panel, not speculation. We see him standing "when she pulls the spear out". We do not see him in any other position besides this. Adding anything else to those panels are being misleading imo.
Originally posted by Smurph
Those... are his knees? Not his feet?He just goes from on all fours to kneeling upright and we only see him kneel upright after the spear is out.
His knees are above the ground, not on it. Also, the weight was said to be on his BACK which means if he is standing upward, he still overpowered the weight.