Originally posted by carver9
I'm going by what's shown on panel, not speculation. We see him standing "when she pulls the spear out". We do not see him in any other position besides this. Adding anything else to those panels are being misleading imo.
Prove Hulk stands when she pulls the spear out and not after she pulls it out. Simple.
I recognize that getting into the angle of Hulk's knees to the ground means analyzing the art on a level that was never meant to hold up to scrutiny.
But, we're only looking at the scan that closely because Carver's arguing about what happened in between the panels. There's no lifting feat based on dialogue or indication of writer intent but he keeps bringing it up so we're left to take a magnifying glass to the scan and look for any hint of a feat.
The physics of the spear
The weight of the star can be activated and deactivated. She increased the density after being thrown. It also has the ability to become black light that can trace its victims path (weightless) and poison them.
She controls the spear mentally. She can decrease the density and pull the spear out, etc
Originally posted by h1a8
The physics of the spear
The weight of the star can be activated and deactivated. She increased the density after being thrown. It also has the ability to become black light that can trace its victims path (weightless) and poison them.
She controls the spear mentally. She can decrease the density and pull the spear out, etc
O...k?
Originally posted by Smurphg
If anything, it looks like Hulk's knees only come off the ground because of the force of Proxima yanking the spear out.Which, checks out. Apparently she's strong enough to casually leap and chuck an object with stellar mass so manhandling Hulk should be no problem.
Show me Hulk coming off the ground due to Proxima.
All of her staff abilities needs to be activated, unless you think Proxima is stronger than Hulk. She's casually carrying around something that had Hulk on his knees. If you think she is stronger than him, you are obviously trolling. If she isn't stronger than him, it means that the staff activates its weight when Proxima wants it to. Choose your poison.
Originally posted by carver9
I already did. With the scan I posted. Prove Proxima pulled the sword out when he was crouched over.
Originally posted by carver9
gShow me Hulk coming off the ground due to Proxima.
All of her staff abilities needs to be activated, unless you think Proxima is stronger than Hulk. She's casually carrying around something that had Hulk on his knees. If you think she is stronger than him, you are obviously trolling. If she isn't stronger than him, it means that the staff activates its weight when Proxima wants it to. Choose your poison.
Isn't this what you said?
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going by what's shown on panel, not speculation. We see him standing "when she pulls the spear out". We do not see him in any other position besides this. Adding anything else to those panels are being misleading imo.
Now you're adding these special properties where the staff activates and deactivates. For the record, I agree that it does, by the way - I am bringing this up however to show how you're blatantly ok with adding interpretation where the comic does not state facts.
Originally posted by carver9Oh ok.
gShow me Hulk coming off the ground due to Proxima.
All of her staff abilities needs to be activated, unless you think Proxima is stronger than Hulk. She's casually carrying around something that had Hulk on his knees. If you think she is stronger than him, you are obviously trolling. If she isn't stronger than him, it means that the staff activates its weight when Proxima wants it to. Choose your poison.
So Proxima deactivated the weight, allowing her to retrieve the spear and Hulk to go from all fours to kneeling upright.
Originally posted by Smurph
Oh ok.So Proxima deactivated the weight, allowing her to retrieve the spear and Hulk to go from all fours to kneeling upright.
The spear changed colors as soon as she grabbed it "while Hulk was standing as shown in the scan" and snatched it out. Don't know why you are making this difficult while also changing your argument at least 3 times in this debate
Originally posted by carver9First, he's not standing.
The spear changed colors as soon as she grabbed it "while Hulk was standing as shown in the scan" and snatched it out. Don't know why you are making this difficult while also changing your argument at least 3 times in this debate
Second:
You have no idea what happened as soon as she grabbed it, because there is no panel showing that moment.
You have no idea whether Hulk was already upright when she grabbed it, or whether her grabbing it forced him upright.... because there is no panel showing that moment.
You have no idea when the spear shifted from stellar density to non-stellar density........... because there is. no. panel. showing. that. moment.
Your refusal to acknowledge the ambiguity is just proof of your bias.
Originally posted by carver9Bruh, nobody cares about Proxima Midnight's spear.
The spear changed colors as soon as she grabbed it "while Hulk was standing as shown in the scan" and snatched it out. Don't know why you are making this difficult while also changing your argument at least 3 times in this debate
Not like the Earth, let alone the ground beneath their feet, collapsed under the weight of the transformed spear's "star weight." Sure, it may have been a personal gravity well focused on Hulk's body, especially given Hulk's lifting feats, but it's not pertinent to this thread.
I get that you referenced this feat in direct response to Lobo throwing a star but that Lobo feat has absolutely nothing to with this thread either.