Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
and how many universes did abraxas destroy?the best feats i can remember for him are- eroding the dimensional barriers between universes, making uatu go blind, killing a bunch of alternate reeds, and killing a bunch of alternate galactuses off-panel.
imperiex destroyed the universe one planet at a time, one galaxy at a time, nothing impressive about it.
abraxas was only ablle to be erased by UN (which by itself is a multiversal destruction device), abraxas was stated to be more powerful than galactus and galactus by himself has multiversal feat at his best
Originally posted by MrMinddunno man, when the og galactus finally showed up, abraxas certainly didn't handwave him away. and when galactus casually snatched the un away from abraxas, there wasn't a damn thing he could do to stop it (he did scream out in pain though)-
abraxas was stated to be more powerful than galactus and galactus by himself has multiversal feat at his best
not saying imperiex wins (though i am curious how abraxas would do against a shot of entropy), but i do feel like abraxas is very overrated in general if we're just talking about displayed feats.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
dunno man, when the og galactus finally showed up, abraxas certainly didn't handwave him away. and when galactus casually snatched the un away from abraxas, there wasn't a damn thing he could do to stop it (he did scream out in pain though)-
https://postimg.cc/zVdntPPZnot saying imperiex wins (though i am curious how abraxas would do against a shot of entropy), but i do feel like abraxas is very overrated in general if we're just talking about displayed feats.
iirc, abraxas killed the mainstream galactus along with all the alternative versions
Re: Abraxas vs. Imperiex
Originally posted by deftDoes Imperiex Prime get all his machinery and probes? If so, does Abraxas get all his thralls? Not sure it makes a difference but might make your query easier to analyze.
Abraxas vs. Imperiex-PrimeHow goes this?
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXEven if Abraxas destroyed no universes, wouldn't Abraxas passively blending the Marvel Multiverse together be more impressive than Imperiex actively, slowly, systematically hollowing out a single universe w/ his technology?
and how many universes did abraxas destroy?the best feats i can remember for him are- eroding the dimensional barriers between universes, making uatu go blind, killing a bunch of alternate reeds, and killing a bunch of alternate galactuses off-panel.
Haven't read the story in a while but this sounds right. 👆
Abraxas did also, with random nameless minions, disintegrate 616 Silver Surfer. On it's own, doesn't sound like much... but when you make obvious comparisons ala Anti-Monitor Shadow Demons... kinda speaks to Abaxas' scope.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998This is true. But a clumsy comparison still kinda sets Abraxas apart.
Although technically it's not the exactly same as destroying a universe, but Imperiex did release the Big Bang energy instantly on panel
Imperiex's defeat = Big Bang of a single universe. Abraxas' defeat = destruction/creation/altering of the Marvel Multiverse.
Re: Re: Abraxas vs. Imperiex
Originally posted by ODGlike i said, i'm not saying that imperiex wins here. just saying that as far as displayed feats are concerned, abraxas is overhyped.
Even if Abraxas destroyed no universes, wouldn't Abraxas passively blending the Marvel Multiverse together be more impressive than Imperiex actively, slowly, systematically hollowing out a single universe w/ his technology?Haven't read the story in a while but this sounds right. 👆
Abraxas did also, with random nameless minions, disintegrate 616 Silver Surfer. On it's own, doesn't sound like much... but when you make obvious comparisons ala Anti-Monitor Shadow Demons... kinda speaks to Abaxas' scope.
og galactus showed up and confiscated the un from him, and there wasn't a damn thing he could do to stop it. you'd certainly think this alleged multiversal powerhouse would be able to resist galactus's attempt to snag the un and proceed to clap him effortlessly, but he didn't.
Re: Re: Re: Abraxas vs. Imperiex
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXExactly what cosmic beings have displayed feats that are properly hyped to you then?
like i said, i'm not saying that imperiex wins here. just saying that as far as displayed feats are concerned, abraxas is overhyped.og galactus showed up and confiscated the un from him, and there wasn't a damn thing he could do to stop it. you'd certainly think this alleged multiversal powerhouse would be able to resist galactus's attempt to snag the un and proceed to clap him effortlessly, but he didn't.
Ignoring 616 Galactus' connection to Abraxas, I can appreciate this sort of criticism so long as you're consistent about it. So I mean, COIE Anti-Monitor got his sh1t kicked in by Supergirl, right? you'd certainly think this alleged multiversal powerhouse would be able to thwart Supergirl's attempt to destroy his machines and proceed to clap her effortlessly, but he didn't.
So???
Originally posted by zopzopKinda seems the opposite. As I understand it, "power creep" is a result of subsequent characters just being portrayed as more and more powerful due to plot.
Blame power creep. Unless you are casually destroying and creating multiverses, you don't impress us much.
Like how Goku just kept coming up against more and more powerful characters that rendered a lot of previous characters irrelevant.
Marvel and DC seem to be the opposite in that they pull back on that. /shrug