Originally posted by RobtardWe'll also see how this affects lone individuals and cells of people in response. Violence begets etc.
It's not so cut and dry, as Israel has given back land it has previously captured in other wars.We'll see what they take (if anything) after they're done destroying Hamas and demolishing the Gaza strip.
Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’
Mounting questions over Israel’s massive intelligence failure to anticipate and prepare for a surprise Hamas assault were compounded Monday when an Egyptian intelligence official said that Jerusalem had ignored repeated warnings that the Gaza-based terror group was planning “something big” — which included an apparent direct notice from Cairo’s intelligence minister to the prime minister.
The Egyptian official said Egypt, which often serves as a mediator between Israel and Hamas, had spoken repeatedly with the Israelis about “something big,” without elaborating.
He said Israeli officials were focused on the West Bank and played down the threat from Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government is made up of supporters of West Bank settlers who have demanded a security crackdown there in the face of a rising tide of violence over the last 18 months. -snip
Not sure if negligence (or criminal negligence?) on Netanyahu's part or deliberate, as this war has certainly turned the focus away from his own political and legal issues and made many Israelis come to solidarity with him.
This war is getting to me. I rather not read the news. But I did notice something unique. If you haven't kept up with the news, Russia has met up with China this week to discuss the war, what was interesting about this meeting is how America responded indirectly. The US is building a new nuclear gravity bomb - with 24-times more power, if this doesn't send a clear message then nothing will.
Originally posted by rudester
This war is getting to me. I rather not read the news. But I did notice something unique. If you haven't kept up with the news, Russia has met up with China this week to discuss the war, what was interesting about this meeting is how America responded indirectly. The US is building a new nuclear gravity bomb - with 24-times more power, if this doesn't send a clear message then nothing will.
24 times more power... than the ones from the 1940s. By the 1950s that was already surpassed by orders of magnitude.
"Gravity bomb" sounds all sci-fi, but all it means is the payload gets dropped from an airplane instead of strapped to a rocket.
When you end up killing more civilians than the terrorist, it's not a good look.
eg The US invaded Iraq under a fabricated threat/lie and we ended up killing more Iraqi civilians both directly and indirectly than Saddam did during his dictatorship reign. There's no arguing that Saddam wasn't a piece of shit, but it's not a good look.
Originally posted by RobtardYes, Saddam tortured civilians with toxic gas. His sons Uday and Qusay were worse. I don't know much about Qusay other than he followed Saddam and stayed close to him whilst Uday raped brides on their honeymoon, girls as young as 12, shot and sawed people, etc. Even Saddam thought he was too evil to inherit the dictatorship. You can't just blame it all on Saddam. The entire regime were evil to the point where they had playing cards with their photos on. That's at least 52 evil people.
When you end up killing more civilians than the terrorist, it's not a good look.eg The US invaded Iraq under a fabricated threat/lie and we ended up killing more Iraqi civilians both directly and indirectly than Saddam did during his dictatorship reign. There's no arguing that Saddam wasn't a piece of shit, but it's not a good look.
Interesting perspective:
Originally posted by Robtard
When you end up killing more civilians than the terrorist, it's not a good look.eg The US invaded Iraq under a fabricated threat/lie and we ended up killing more Iraqi civilians both directly and indirectly than Saddam did during his dictatorship reign. There's no arguing that Saddam wasn't a piece of shit, but it's not a good look.
It causes a complete lack of trust in them. So even when there is a complete POS Dictator out there, I'm not gonna support the US to take them out, because I know they only have their own interests at play and don't give a toss about protecting anyone.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Israel has the unconditional backing of the U.S., so they don't have to care about looks.
Yeah exactly. Bassem Yousef joked about that when Piers Morgan asked him what would he do if he was Israel. And he was like "I would keep bombing Gaza because why not when the world is allowing me to?!"