what feats does movie only gandalf even have? sure he fought the balrog, but that thing was pretty much featless in the movie too. it was just a fire giant with a whip.
so unless gandalf pulled off some crazy feats in the hobbit movies (i never bothered to watch those), then palpatine rapes him with lightning and tk.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
what feats does movie only gandalf even have? sure he fought the balrog, but that thing was pretty much featless in the movie too. it was just a fire giant with a whip.so unless gandalf pulled off some crazy feats in the hobbit movies (i never bothered to watch those), then palpatine rapes him with lightning and tk.
He displayed some TK abilities in his fight against Saruman and was able to make really bright lights. That's all I remember, otherwise he mostly fought with staff and sword.
Yeah, movie only Gandalf, though the fall through Kazad Dum, and the following 2 day fight from the bottom of that lake to the pinnacle of Zirak Zigil is quite literally his only real display of power. And though he could be considered comparable to Sauron as Gandalf the White later, thats... not really enough to sway the favor of the fight between him and Sheev. Palpatine has a weapon that in all likely probability cleave through Glamdring like it's made of Pig iron, and his powers are slightly faster to use, not reliant on a staff, and are by most reasonable accounts, more versatile.
Gandalf's strength is that he had reliable allies most of the time, and he's a good inspiring leader who can rally his teammates. Sheev commands his empire through cunning manipulation and fear, and later through fear.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
To be fair, movie only Palpatine got defeated in the same way three times...If Gandalf's TK, shield or blinding aura can make Palps electrocute himself, then it's an easy win for him.
Both characters are being extremely wanked on battleboards, even though both underperformed more than once.
Yeah but at least Palpatine has some pretty high-end feats in the movies. I can't remember a single decent showing for Gandalf.
Either because you are biased or have a poor memory.
Killed Balrog.
Stomped Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli at the same time.
Stomped Saruman.
One-shotted Olog-hai.
And so on, and so on.
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What movie Palps did again? Oh, yes. Killed completely featless Council members and tortured Luke who refused to fight and threw away his lightsaber.
Gandalf was a badass in the films. He could literally rip Palpatine's head off if he gets in close.
But I wouldn't downplay Palpatine taking out three Jedi, even though that scene was stupidly done. It's still three Jedi masters.
Featless and nameless (movies never explored any of them, we didn't even learn their names on screen) masters. Unless we count Fisto beating C-3PO, of course 😂
Here on forums, that pales in comparison with showings against named characters with feats and good amount of screen time.
"Not a single decent showing". Selective memory and double standards have always been ridiculous on KMC.
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Palps' overreliance on Force Lightning is his greatest weakness.
If a beaten up cripple made Palps electrocute himself just by picking him up, imagine what a lightstrike will do.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Featless and nameless (movies never explored any of them, we didn't even learn their names on screen) masters. Unless we count Fisto beating C-3PO, of course 😂Here on forums, that pales in comparison with showings against named characters with feats and good amount of screen time.
"Not a single decent showing". Selective memory and double standards have always been ridiculous on KMC.
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Palps' overreliance on Force Lightning is his greatest weakness.If a beaten up cripple made Palps electrocute himself just by picking him up, imagine what a lightstrike will do.
Technically, your argument can apply to the Balrog as well as it was also featless. I do admit I had forgotten that he killed the Balrog. All I remember was them trading blows (sloppily) and Gandalf eventually escaping.
I also don't recall Gandalf stomping Saruman, in fact I'm pretty sure Saruman beat Gandalf.
Plus it's a stretch to say Gandalf stomped Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas. He blocked an axe, blocked an arrow, heated up Aragorn's sword. That's it.
Palpatine stalemated Yoda, and that was using lightning, TK and lighsaber.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Technically, your argument can apply to the Balrog as well as it was also featless.
He made both the goblin army and the fellowship flee.
And Balrog and Gandalf ended up killing each other -- so, there you go. Not featless.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I also do recall Saruman beating Gandalf.
Gandalf the Grey, yes.
Gandalf the White no-sold Saruman's fireball and nonchalantly broke his staff. A great example of how much more powerful he's become.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Plus it's a stretch to say Gandalf stomped Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas. He blocked an axe, blocked an arrow, heated up Aragorn's sword. That's it.
Heated it up, making him drop it. Effectively disarmed him.
Blinded them, too.
You don't think that would work great on someone who has a long history of electrocuting himself just fine, even without such hindrance as obstructed vision?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Palpatine stalemated Yoda, and that was using lightning, TK and lighsaber.
Yet another time in which his FL got used against him 👆