Lift the heavens

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's how a shared universe works. If it's canon, it can be cross referenced.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean there are two different Atlas in DC holding up two different skies?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Axis Mundi is the energy field which Atlas holds up. Learn to read.

In this story Atlas is the Axis Mundi. I mean is literally explained in the first quote I cited.

Originally posted by abhilegend
https://postimg.cc/image/a7a7qi819/

"The axis Mundi exists in various other forms to various other faiths including Yggdrasil".

I thought you read the scans lol

So to recap, you have found one handbook that refers to Axis Mundi as an energy field, and one handbook that refers to Yggdrasil as an energy field, and one handbook that refers to Axis Mundi as Yggdrasil, and you are using those statements to argue that Hercules didn't live the heavens?

Never understood Abhi's obsession with Superman.

Abhi, Superman is not going to save you. Like all Americans, Clark can't even use a world map.

Originally posted by Astner
It's not a matter of whether it can or can't be done, but rather: a matter of the quality of the arguments being made. Most people here understand that these kind of patchwork arguments don't represent either the writers', the editors', or the audience's perception of the character's abilities.

Quality according to whom?

No. What I mean is that this conception of Heaven is unrelated to the one held up by Atlas.

What's Atlas holding up then?

They're siphoning Atlas' power, it's right there in the pages you posted: Atlas is being drained of his powers and expresses pain.

In this story Atlas is the Axis Mundi. I mean is literally explained in the first quote I cited.

Have you actually read the story? I guess not.

Amazons drain the axis Mundi calling Atlas anchor of axis Mundi and freeing him from the burden.

Originally posted by Smurph
lol I am completely at a loss as to what you think you're proving. This is like GS going on about Kabbalah.

So to recap, you have found one handbook that refers to Axis Mundi as an energy field, and one handbook that refers to Yggdrasil as an energy field, and one handbook that refers to Axis Mundi as Yggdrasil, and you are using those statements to argue that Hercules didn't live the heavens?

I guess marvel heaven is the size of a vase?

This just in, Amadeus Cho can lift the heavens in marvel.

"It's the anchor and fulcrum of the whole world". World must be omniverse here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Quality according to whom?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What's Atlas holding up then?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Amazons drain the axis Mundi calling Atlas anchor of axis Mundi and freeing him from the burden.

Originally posted by Astner
According to consistency. Which is what we're trying to establish.

Heaven, but a different conception thereof. Again, these are unrelated stories.

They're also calling him the Bearer of the Heavens, which is what you're denying. I think? You've not really made your argument particularly clear.

What's the difference in heavens between both stories according to you?

Alright, so your argument is that Atlas held up physical weight of the heavens, right? So when Amazons drained it and made a vase the new anchor of the world, do you think Amadeus Cho lifted the physical weight of the heavens?

Originally posted by abhilegend
This just in, Amadeus Cho can lift the heavens in marvel.

"It's the anchor and fulcrum of the whole world". World must be omniverse here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even in the story itself, Atlas only lifted Axis Mundi. Do you think Amazons here drained the heavens and freed Atlas?

I guess marvel heaven is the size of a vase?

This is your whole argument, isn't it?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Alright, so your argument is that Atlas held up physical weight of the heavens, right?

So when Amazons drained it and made a vase the new anchor of the world, do you think Amadeus Cho lifted the physical weight of the heavens?

This is your whole argument, isn't it?

The other argument I'm making is that you're cross-referencing unrelated stories.

Abhi's double standards are stuff of legends vin

Originally posted by Astner
No. The main argument I'm making is that it's a metaphysical feat and therefore worthless when we're trying to quantify the characters's physical abilities.

The writer even clarified that the feat took both strength of body and spirit. Superman physically lifted the sky, there were other factors too but that doesn't diminishes the physical aspect of the feat.

The other argument I'm making is that you're cross-referencing unrelated stories.

That's what makes stories part of a shared universe. It's canon, it can be referenced.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Abhi's double standards are stuff of legends vin

Truly spoken like a wolverine fanboy.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

😎😎😎

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman just beat Goku 3-0.

😎😎😎

Who cares about Death Battle?

The opinion of true experts matter more to me:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Post Crisis Superman loses to Goku in Frieza saga form before he went Super Saiyan. Forget about SSJ4

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Who cares about Death Battle?

The opinion of true experts matter more to me:

😎😎😎

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even in the story itself, Atlas only lifted Axis Mundi. Do you think Amazons here drained the heavens and freed Atlas?

You're relying on bios and then ignoring the plain words in those bios.

Originally posted by Smurph
This doesn't prove that Atlas didn't lift the heavens.

You're relying on bios and then ignoring the plain words in those bios.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This just in, Amadeus Cho can lift the heavens in marvel.

"It's the anchor and fulcrum of the whole world". World must be omniverse here.

Seems anyone can lift the heavens, even 15 year old kids and a bullet can deflect the entirety of heavens.

Originally posted by Smurph
This doesn't prove that Atlas didn't lift the heavens.

You're relying on bios and then ignoring the plain words in those bios.

Originally posted by Smurph

What happened to the heavens after the amazons freed Atlas from his burden?