Originally posted by carver9
See how that tractor is shattering on impact? Thanks for the scan, helping me prove my case.
Both times, tractors sustained only some minor damage and were in one piece after being used as weapons, so that's yet another thing you managed to get wrong about it.
Are you still fighting with tinfoil in your grandma's kitchen?
Originally posted by Smurph
Again, the tractor is not the relevant part of the feat.Most heralds would not shrug off Frankenstein smashing them three times in the head, right after he shot them in the head.
So you believe that a character capable of taking planetary, or even city level destructive force would be ko'd by a tractor? What I believe would happen is that that tractor would be ripped apart causing no visible damage to the character capable of tanking forces that great. What you're arguing is a low feat. Superman has shrugged off far greater than that. The Thing being far weaker can as well
Originally posted by StoicI believe that Superman could ko Wonder Woman by hitting her with a tractor, yes.
So you believe that a character capable of taking planetary, or even city level destructive force would be ko'd by a tractor? What I believe would happen is that that tractor would be ripped apart causing no visible damage to the character capable of tanking forces that great. What you're arguing is a low feat. Superman has shrugged off far greater than that. The Thing being far weaker can as well
Comic book physics. The absence of collateral damage to the frame of the tractor doesn't take away from the strength of the person wielding the tractor. The same way that we don't try to water down Hulk feats by pointing out that if Hulk were really that powerful his attacks should have been damaging the surrounding room/building/city/etc.
Originally posted by Smurph
I believe that Superman could ko Wonder Woman by hitting her with a tractor, yes.Comic book physics. The absence of collateral damage to the frame of the tractor doesn't take away from the strength of the person wielding the tractor. The same way that we don't try to water down Hulk feats by pointing out that if Hulk were really that powerful his attacks should have been damaging the surrounding room/building/city/etc.
And the force requires to do it is akin to Tsar Bomba according to this guy on quora
https://www.quora.com/How-much-force-would-it-take-to-kick-someone-to-the-moon
The most plausible way to kick you that fast is by using nuclear bombs. You would need to detonate a 0.96 kiloton bomb and ride the shockwave in order to make it out of earth. And that is only the bare minimum. Earth’s gravity extends beyond the atmosphere, so even in space you would still experience about 90% the pull of gravity as on earth. Getting to space is easy. Staying there is fairy difficult.Although 0.96 kilotons can put you into space, you would still fall back to earth in the end. I calculated that if you wanted to be 100% sure you would be going to the moon, you would have to detonate the Tsar Bomba.
Originally posted by Smurph
excellent example 👆maybe construction vehicles being invincible is just another weird comic trope
Plus Superman being shot in the head just before, which funnily enough people keep forgetting.
But yes, it seems Carv accepts that Franky is a legit HH, near Superman level being.
Not sure why getting hit by such a herald is a low showing......
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Cartoon style artwork is just the best for Captain Marvel characters.
Yeah, especially when we have this for example
https://ibb.co/sqLyYXv
https://ibb.co/Kq9NQGvAnd the force requires to do it is akin to Tsar Bomba according to this guy on quora
https://www.quora.com/How-much-force-would-it-take-to-kick-someone-to-the-moon
Originally posted by Smurph
I believe that Superman could ko Wonder Woman by hitting her with a tractor, yes.Comic book physics. The absence of collateral damage to the frame of the tractor doesn't take away from the strength of the person wielding the tractor. The same way that we don't try to water down Hulk feats by pointing out that if Hulk were really that powerful his attacks should have been damaging the surrounding room/building/city/etc.
Superman swatted Wonder Woman from the sun, or nearly that distance, to the Earth, and she remained conscious. Superman's hand is more durable than a tractor. Not to mention that Superman while not holding back is far stronger than Frankenstein. Your analogy is filled with flaws.
Originally posted by StoicI didn't draw an analogy between Superman and Frankenstein. I just answered your question about basic comic book physics:
Superman swatted Wonder Woman from the sun, or nearly that distance, to the Earth, and she remained conscious. Superman's hand is more durable than a tractor. Not to mention that Superman while not holding back is far stronger than Frankenstein. Your analogy is filled with flaws.
Originally posted by Stoic
So you believe that a character capable of taking planetary, or even city level destructive force would be ko'd by a tractor?
Originally posted by Smurph
I believe that Superman could ko Wonder Woman by hitting her with a tractor, yes.
Do you believe that Superman could not ko Wonder Woman by hitting her with a tractor?
Originally posted by SmurphCo-signed. 👆
Comic book physics.
I'm a big fan of this fight but I always chuckled at how a streetlamp being used as a bludgeon seemed to be a significant blow.
Originally posted by Galan007Co-signed. 👆 👆
Nothing more needs to be said. 👆
Like... if we take the durability of Bor at full faith and credit where Mjolnir literally broke to pieces in the fight's final deathblow simply because of how durable Bor was... a streetlamp should've been like a foam bat:
It should be softer than a foam bat imo
Writer's sometimes make the mistake of equating or disproportionately scaling our own human durability to those characters with super durability.
Getting hit by a street lamp will absolutely wreck a human and therefore should at least stagger a high class 100 being. That's their logic. People reading that shit often gets tricked into that thinking as well (suspension of disbelief)
Originally posted by Smurph
I didn't draw an analogy between Superman and Frankenstein. I just answered your question about basic comic book physics:Do you believe that Superman could not ko Wonder Woman by hitting her with a tractor?
I believe that that tractor would fall apart. Would you be KO'd by a bag of feathers swung at you by someone 20% stronger than you? Probably not. You'd feel it, and possibly become stunned, but you'll remain conscious. Superman was going ham on Wonder Woman while out of control. She was hit by far more than a tractor, and remained not only alive, but conscious.