Darkseid True Form vs. The Beyonder

Started by abhilegend12 pages

Originally posted by ODG
Because he possessed the ALE which literally warped existence into reflecting him and his own state. Distorted, evil, twisted, with a deep gaping maw at its core.

This debate ran its course 15 years ago. I'm happy to revisit it with the likes of Juntai, kevdude, Allankles, Tricksterpriest, fangirl101, Philosophía, etc.

You'd need to stand on a highchair atop a ladder and the WTC to kiss their a$$es.


ALE didn't do shit except control people's mind. I don't care who you debated with or against, you didn't do it against me.

Put up or shut up.

^ I'm already discussing it with Juntai. After all, you'd need Stiltman's cybernetic legs to reach up and kiss his a$$. So sit quietly and read.

Heck, Final Crisis secret files outright states what Anti Life Equation is, it's a mathematical formula that negates free will.

Originally posted by ODG
^ I'm already discussing it with Juntai. After all, you'd need Stiltman's cybernetic legs to reach up and kiss his a$$. So sit quietly and read.

No, what are you gonna do except run away from me?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heck, Final Crisis secret files outright states what Anti Life Equation is, it's a mathematical formula that negates free will.

https://postimg.cc/svDn05KZ

If you think the ALE is only capable of enslaving people -- despite everything it did during Final Crisis -- then you're an abject moron.

Do Juntai a favor and don't tarnish his position. He doesn't need the handicap. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
If you think the ALE is only capable of enslaving people -- despite everything it did during Final Crisis -- then you're an abject moron.

What other things did it do in Final Crisis, dumbo? You know on panel, not in your imagination.

Do Juntai a favor and don't tarnish his position. He doesn't need the handicap. 👆

Like I said, put up or shut up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What other things did it do in Final Crisis, dumbo? You know on panel, not in your imagination.
Cracking time and space via an internet broadcast. Unmaking creation. Imbue humans with Omega Finder Beams from their eyes, etc. Read Final Crisis and its tie-ins for this.

Originally posted by ODG
Cracking time and space via an internet broadcast.

Outright confirmed due to the Darkseid's fall, not by ALE. Where do you even get that lmao.

Unmaking creation.


Spectre did that not ALE. He remade creation as he unmade it.

Imbue humans with Omega Finder Beams from their eyes, etc.

Never even alluded to be due to ALE.

Read Final Crisis and its tie-ins for this.

Have you read it? I doubt it if you are so wrong about so much lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
Outright confirmed due to the Darkseid's fall, not by ALE. Where do you even get that lmao.
Mokkari pressed a button on a keyboard to unleash the ALE that cracked time and space. On-panel:

To ignore this would require you to pretend that Mokkari pressed a button on a keyboard to unleash Darkseid???

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre did that not ALE. He remade creation as he unmade it.
Spectre did it by speaking the ALE. On-panel:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Never even alluded to be due to ALE.
Given that your argument is the ALE is strictly limited to only striping free will, then how did normal humans start shooting Omega Finder Beams???? On-panel:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Have you read it? I doubt it if you are so wrong about so much lol
You know I have. Multiple times. I've also debated it far more than you against a variety of posters. Leave the actual debate to your betters like Juntai.

Originally posted by ODG
Mokkari pressed a button on a keyboard to unleash the ALE that cracked time and space. On-panel:

Anti Life Equation was already used in meta kids long before Mokkari transmitted it all over the globe.

To pretend that somehow this transmission of ALE cracked time and space and not earlier is laughable.

To ignore this would require you to pretend that Mokkari pressed a button on a keyboard to unleash Darkseid???

Darkseid descended in the body of Dan Turpin cracked time and space.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Anti Life Equation was already used in meta kids long before Mokkari transmitted it all over the globe.

https://postimg.cc/PCW4FYC4[/b]

I am arguing that the fully-realized ALE has more effects than just simple mind control over kids. And when Mokkari unleashed the ALE with a keystroke, "That's when time, space... everything cracked."

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/ALE01.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
To pretend that somehow this transmission of ALE cracked time and space and not earlier is laughable.
Are you on phucking crack?

Originally posted by ODG
Spectre did it by speaking the ALE. On-panel:


It was Spectre's power which did it, ALE was only about stripping people's will. That's why Spectre when freed remade creation.

If ALE was remaking creation, random humans chanting it would have remade creation too, it didn't.

Given that your argument is the ALE is strictly limited to only striping free will, then how did normal humans start shooting Omega Finder Beams???? On-panel:


Darkseid can channel his powers through others for a long time lol. Point out where ALE did that or even alluded to giving human powers?

You know I have. Multiple times. I've also debated it far more than you against a variety of posters. Leave the actual debate to your betters like Juntai.

You're an idiot who thinks he's smart. Deadly combo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was Spectre's power which did it, ALE was only about stripping people's will. That's why Spectre when freed remade creation.

https://postimg.cc/K1HrsbFZ

If ALE was remaking creation, random humans chanting it would have remade creation too, it didn't.

https://postimg.cc/ZBhfVmFW

Spectre is a much larger loud-speaker for the ALE than a random human.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid can channel his powers through others for a long time lol. Point out where ALE did that or even alluded to giving human powers?

You're an idiot who thinks he's smart. Deadly combo.

This is just you assuming your conclusion again with no proof.

You're an idiot who knows he's an idiot but is so butthurt you can't help himself. Triple ouroboros of phail and you contribute exactly nothing to this forum but disinformation.

Originally posted by ODG
Spectre is a much larger loud-speaker for the ALE than a random human.

Why does it matter if just speaking ALE remakes creation and Spectre's power had nothing to do with it?

This is just you assuming your conclusion again.

As opposed to ALE randomly giving humans omega beams when it did not do anything like that in the whole event?

You're an idiot who knows he's an idiot but is so butthurt you can't help himself. Triple ouroboros of phail and you contribute exactly nothing to this forum but disinformation.

Again, just repeating what I said like a dumb parrot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why does it matter if just speaking ALE remakes creation and Spectre's power had nothing to do with it?
Because as already said, Spectre is obviously a much larger loud-speaker than a random human. But just to show you how hypocritical you are, why was the ALE or Spectre ever even involved in that scene where creation was unmade? If it's all just Darkseid, they're wholly unnecessary.

But what scene are we left with in Final Crisis: Revelations? A scene where Darkseid ab initio unmakes creation or a scene where Spectre on-panel speaks the ALE and creation is unmade?

Try and divorce the ALE from ther events of Final Crisis all you want. Just don't pretend that it doesn't exist in the very scenes I'm posting.

Originally posted by abhilegend
As opposed to ALE randomly giving humans omega beams when it did not do anything like that in the whole event?
It's not random. The full extent of the ALE makes you master of existence to the point where existence becomes you. Existence becomes warped and cracked like Darkseid's degenerate self. Individuals become Darkseid to the point where they are nothing more than extensions of him. The gaping maw in his chest creates a gaping singularity in the center of creation.

It's the entire theme of Final Crisis. But there you squat in feces, ignoring all of that because of some juvenile compulsion to raise Darkseid's stock on a battleboard forum. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

Originally posted by ODG
Because as already said, Spectre is obviously a much larger loud-speaker than a random human. But just to show you how hypocritical you are, why was the ALE or Spectre ever even involved in that scene where creation was unmade? If it's all just Darkseid, they're wholly unnecessary.

What are you even talking about here? Spectre undid everything done by himself at the end, the whole thing didn't even matter in the end.

But what scene are we left with in Final Crisis: Revelations? A scene where Darkseid ab initio unmakes creation or a scene where Spectre on-panel speaks the ALE and creation is unmade?

Spectre remade the creation and he was explicitly unable to change anything remade from ALE. Ergo, it was his own power that unmade the creation, not ALE.

Try and divorce the ALE from ther events of Final Crisis all you want. Just don't pretend that it doesn't exist in the very scenes I'm posting. It's not random.

Your fanfiction doesn't counts.

The full extent of the ALE makes you master of existence to the point where existence becomes you. Existence becomes warped and cracked like Darkseid's degenerate self. Individuals become Darkseid to the point where they are nothing more than extensions of him. The gaping maw in his chest creates a gaping singularity in the center of creation.

That was all Darkseid, never even alluded to be the power of ALE. Your delusional hatred for Darkseid is blindingly obvious at this point where you make up stuff never even stated in the comic.

It's the entire theme of Final Crisis. But there you squat in feces, ignoring all of that because of some juvenile compulsion to raise Darkseid's stock on a battleboard forum. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

The theme of Final Crisis is Darkseid falling and dragging multiverse alongside him. Not ALE, your delusions are something else.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are you even talking about here?
Final Crisis. Might want to read it. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
Final Crisis. Might want to read it. 👆

😂

Concession accepted on all points. Run along kiddo.

^ What's worse than deconstructing someone's obviously transparent schtick where they cannot discuss the actual topic constructively?

And then after that, what's worse than deconstructing said schtick to the point where they descend towards abject denial?

And then after that, what's worse than exposing such abject denial and cornering them to impotent trollery?

And then after that, what's worse than reducing a self-proclaimed proud/best KMC poster to the depths of impotent trolery where they invoke quanch112?

Answer: abhilegend's current bloody butt. Frikkin 8th Wonder of the World.