Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer's only way to win is through exotic means.
If Surfer decides to discharge enough energy to create a black hole like he did in Annihilation then it's over. I mean, what could Mongul even do in that scenario? He can't fly. He's going to fall into it with the rest of the planet while the Surfer watches.
Originally posted by Astner- Annihilation: Silver Surfer #1
Originally posted by Astner
The Silver Surfer has wrestled and taken hits from characters like Thor, Hulk, and Gladiator. It's just that that's not normally not how he fights. He has every superpower in the book, it's just that the Power Cosmic goes far beyond what brawn alone can do. The Surfer's whole gimmick is that he casually surfs supernovae. That alone sets a precedent of scale that's difficult to compete with.
It doesn't and even rookie Lanterns can dive into supernovas. Doesn't mean they are unbeatable.
If Surfer decides to discharge enough energy to create a black hole like he did in Annihilation then it's over. I mean, what could Mongul even do in that scenario? He can't fly. He's going to fall into it with the rest of the planet while the Surfer watches.
Sure, Surfer could BFR Mongul to win. He isn't beating him straight up though.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It doesn't and even rookie Lanterns can dive into supernovas.
Even Superman has had his life threatened by supernovae.
"Right behind him was an expanding ball of radiation that would've incinerated Clark as soon as it touched him."
- Action Comics #847
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure, Surfer could BFR Mongul to win. He isn't beating him straight up though.
Originally posted by AstnerI mean if we’re ignoring the fact that he was nearly powerless from red sun from the Sun Eater and that the explosion was 50 supernova worth of Entropy explosion, and not solar energy, then sure.
They can shield themselves from supernovae, provided they're far enough away. It's not quite the same thing though.Even Superman has had his life threatened by supernovae.
"Right behind him was an expanding ball of radiation that would've incinerated Clark as soon as it touched him."
- Action Comics #847
I don't think Mongul would survive inside of a black hole. He certainly doesn't have the feats for it. But the Surfer has a million different ways to deal with Mongul, and Mongul doesn't have the extensive list of resistance feats Superman have picked up over the thousands of comics he's been in. I don't think there's much of a debate here.
Originally posted by Astner
They can shield themselves from supernovae, provided they're far enough away. It's not quite the same thing though.
Wrong as usual.
Soranik Natu survives a supernova and a black hole. GLC recharge 1
https://postimg.cc/gallery/JsF0TyB
Isamot and Vath survive a black hole and a supernova . GLC recharge 2.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/JrW4wZ7
Even Superman has had his life threatened by supernovae.
"Right behind him was an expanding ball of radiation that would've incinerated Clark as soon as it touched him."
- Action Comics #847
Why do you lie about this despite being corrected multiple times?
I don't think Mongul would survive inside of a black hole. He certainly doesn't have the feats for it. But the Surfer has a million different ways to deal with Mongul, and Mongul doesn't have the extensive list of resistance feats Superman have picked up over the thousands of comics he's been in. I don't think there's much of a debate here.
Name those million different ways, I'd like to see those.
Abhi, would you say that Mongul would be as physically dominating as Thanos was at the time that he casually defeated the Surfer? Killing him with his bare hands?
Thanos is cosmic, but not on account to Galactus as you likely know. This is why he can do ludicrous amounts of damage on the Surfer. Even without mentioning the two times that he was augmented, the Surfer has power over organic Life forms, which allows him to shield himself from taking damage from similar opponents.
The Hulk is a prime example. Thor is as well, to a certain extent. Thor literally caved the Surfers head in with his hammer, and Norrin got back up as if nothing happened.
However, I'm more than willing to be corrected. What's the story with Mongul? Why do you see this going a different way?
Originally posted by Astner
The Silver Surfer has wrestled and taken hits from characters like Thor, Hulk, and Gladiator. It's just that that's not normally not how he fights. He has every superpower in the book, it's just that the Power Cosmic goes far beyond what brawn alone can do. The Surfer's whole gimmick is that he casually surfs supernovae. That alone sets a precedent of scale that's difficult to compete with.If Surfer decides to discharge enough energy to create a black hole like he did in Annihilation then it's over. I mean, what could Mongul even do in that scenario? He can't fly. He's going to fall into it with the rest of the planet while the Surfer watches.
Lol you didn't read any of my posts did you? You just wasted minutes of your time and won't be able to get them back.
I said Surfer wins by exotic means. But if he fights Mongul like he does Thanos then he will lose.
Basically if Surfer can beat Mongul then he could beat Thanos using the same strategy.
