yeah i was sort of thinking the same thing about the shields. i wonder if mags's shield would stop sue's abilities or if his would stop hers. hers allow em energy to pass through under normal circumstances--light, obviously. they also let sound and gravity work so it's possible he could affect her somehow, at least until she altered the field to stop those affects. but since her fields seem to originate from outside the universe, it's possible she could bypass his shields altogether and win with a brain bubble. i'm really not sure. since her fields bend em radiation, i'd be interested to see if he could find her if she went invisible. or her find him if HE went invisible lol
honestly not sure who would take this.
given his rigorous mental training and pretty impressive reaction feats i'd give him a slight edge in a quickdraw--6/10. this would be a very cool battle to see if written well.
I think these days if they walk in shielded, Sue takes it. You could feasibly write a comic where either wins, but the balance of the feats tilts towards her.
On a quickdraw - they've both got good reaction feats, but his feats and heightened reactions being part of his powerset put him a cut above, imo.
She has autoshields:
And her forcefields can cancel out others (like Doom's):
Which she has done to Galactus, although it hurt her:
Still, I'd say Galactus > Magneto, personally.
By the by, Magneto couldn't find her (or her entire team) when invisible, and had to resort to using the environment:
OTOH, she could hide from someone actively searching for her using 'every frequency of radiation':
And made some aliens visible. Notable because these aliens were able to hide from Galactus:
https://i.postimg.cc/yYdYbjnw/Aliens.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/fyWTZfsS/Aliens2.jpg
As well as the Unseen, who was hiding from the Watchers:
Of course, Sue can hide herself from Watchers.
So on balance, it's more likely she can hide from Magneto, and if Mags tries hiding from her she would be able to find him anyway.
Shielding in comics has always been a bit of an anomaly to me. Like I know a lot of shields are stupidly haxx and can block massive external attacks... But how often have we seen a character try (and fail) to utilize internal attacks while the shields are up(ie. manipulate the space inside of the shield, ftw)..?
Like in a theoretical "Vader vs. Sue" match, for example: if Sue started the battle with her shielding up, would that prevent Vader from crushing her windpipe by manipulating the Force within the shield barrier?
I feel like that specific tactic isn't often seen in comics, but it has me curious...
Originally posted by Galan007
Shielding in comics has always been a bit of an anomaly to me. Like I know a lot of shields are stupidly haxx and can block massive external attacks... But how often have we seen a character try (and fail) to utilize internal attacks while the shields are up(ie. manipulate the space inside of the shield, ftw)..?Like in a theoretical "Vader vs. Sue" match, for example: if Sue started the battle with her shielding up, would that prevent Vader from crushing her windpipe by manipulating the Force within the shield barrier?
I feel like that specific tactic isn't often seen in comics, but it has me curious...
Closest I could find is Sersi saying Sue's forcefield explicitly prevented her from affecting Sue 'directly' - but then, these things are usually depicted as an energy beam from point A to B.
Unlike Sue's, which apparently manifest 'anywhere on this plane' lol (see above with Morgan Le Fay and the Atlantis force field.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Closest I could find is Sersi saying Sue's forcefield explicitly prevented her from affecting Sue 'directly' - but then, these things are usually depicted as an energy beam from point A to B.Unlike Sue's, which apparently manifest 'anywhere on this plane' lol (see above with Morgan Le Fay and the Atlantis force field.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, she heated the air to rush out of the field (unless Crystal was directly heating the air inside the forcefield)?
In any case, no longer applicable as Sue got more powerful after:
And the FF continually soak up rays (like Superman) so only get stronger over time:
Also, wasn't that a dream sequence??
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Edit: yes, zopzop you naughty little boy, it was Fantastic Four #332, and that entire fight is a dream sequence from Johnny:I'm going to spank you.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Zopzop loves visiting men's dreams...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Yeah, I took the dialogue to mean that Sersi could no longer attack Sue directly/externally once her FF was up... But again, has a character ever explicitly tried (and failed) to manipulate the space within the shielding, assuming they have the ability to do so?
Closest I could find is Sersi saying Sue's forcefield explicitly prevented her from affecting Sue 'directly' - but then, these things are usually depicted as an energy beam from point A to B.
Mind you, this isn't necessarily a Sue-specific question... It would apply to any character with "bubble-shielding" like that. Obviously we know most uber shields can soak high-end external attacks... But could a character with the right powerset theoretically manipulate the area within that bubble/barrier, or does the shielding also prevent that?
Again, I'm going with the Vader example because it's the easiest: he can manipulate the Force. The Force exists everywhere, holds everything together, surrounds/binds all, etc. So while the shields would undoubtedly block, say, a TK wave or Force Lightning(as they are attacks of the external sort), would the shields also negate Vader's ability to manipulate the Force that still exists within the shielding?
