Juggernaut's Skin vs Adamantium

Started by ODG4 pages

^ To be fair, when's the last time Juggernaut was even at his classic standard levels? Around when he fought Thor during Aaron's run?

Originally posted by carver9
Was he at full power here?
No. No, he was not.

Originally posted by ODG
No. No, he was not.

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The armor seems more powerful but he broke his connection to Cyttorak.

What are you trying to prove, Abhi?

Also curious why Abhi's scan spells it Armour instead of Armor. I didn't think the comics switched between American and British spelling.

Back on task though, I didn't realize Juggernaut doesn't answer to Cyttorak these days. Sorta begs the question though, whether there's a division between his Cyttorak-backed feats and his newer Crimson Gem-backed stuff. No reason to assume that durability is consistent. If it were any major character, we would draw the distinction.

Originally posted by Smurph
The armor seems more powerful but he broke his connection to Cyttorak.

What are you trying to prove, Abhi?


Yeah I'll post the scan later, it's Juggernaut #3.

Cain gets to do what he wants now, basically, without having to answer to Cyttorak. So writers get to use him as a hero and he doesn't have to cause destruction.

When questions like this arise, I usually default to 'what do the comics show?'

And the fact that normal bees (which is what Swarm uses) can pierce his skin, makes me think he's not at full power.

Originally posted by Smurph
The armor seems more powerful but he broke his connection to Cyttorak.

What are you trying to prove, Abhi?


Juggernaut is actually more powerful than before, he's not less powerful.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Juggernaut is actually more powerful than before, he's not less powerful.
That's a sentence about his armour

This is a thread about his skin

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

When questions like this arise, I usually default to 'what do the comics show?'

And the fact that normal bees (which is what Swarm uses) can pierce his skin, makes me think he's not at full power.

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Originally posted by Smurph
That's a sentence about his armour

This is a thread about his skin


Eh? His armor is more powerful than ever but his skin is softer without any reason?

His latest armor was made in the Forge of Cyttorak and seems more powerful and allows him to break his connection with Cyttorak.

That's not proof that Juggernaut himself is stronger than ever before.

At what point has his new armor seemed more powerful than before?

They're Crimson Bands that have been stabilized to exist perpetually on the Earthly plane, yes. But even in the first scan that StiltmanFTW posted, soldiers are pulling and stretching those bands out with their hands.

He's not even immune to telepathy.

And nobody, especially not Cain Marko himself, has ever conceded that Hulk was "so much stronger" than Juggernaut. Except when he fought him, that's exactly what was said while getting smacked around by Immortal Hulk.

Yeah, agreed with all that. The armour "seems even more powerful" is just the wording in Abhi's scan.

In X of the House of Fall, the soldiers are also shooting Cain up with bullets and he's hurting.

Originally posted by Smurph
Yeah, agreed with all that. The armour "seems even more powerful" is just the wording in Abhi's scan.
Well, that underlined part is your problem then. Ain't worth warm spit.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In X of the House of Fall, the soldiers are also shooting Cain up with bullets and he's hurting.

Fall of the X of House

The X of House Fall of

He had to have been weakened in that showing.