Originally posted by ODG
Sure, Great Darkness Saga events can be feats for the pre-Crisis 31st century Darkseid that actually appeared in that story. Just not for post-Crisis Darkseid.Especially not given the new retcons introduced by Infinite Frontier #0 which were even further reinforced by DC All-In Special #1.
Accept the comics or don't.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What are the retcons that made it non usable for post Crisis Darkseid, let's see those retcons.
odg reminds me of certain cringelord, remember him? they gotta be related
Originally posted by Mr Master
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Originally posted by abhilegendWhat clumsy-a$$ argumentum ad ignorantium is this? You don't get to shift the burden of proof onto me.
What are the retcons that made it non usable for post Crisis Darkseid, let's see those retcons.
Firstly, prove this proposition of your's:
Why are a pre-Crisis 31st century Darkseid's feats during Great Darkness Saga applicable to pre-Crisis 20th century Darkseid who appeared in Hunter/Prey which somehow then reverse-inflate H/P Doomsday???.
Only after you achieve that initial proposition should we deign to discuss every single goddamned retcon occurring in the last 5 years.
I don't need to disprove your myth several times over. You need to start proving it. Horse don't follow the cart, pal.
Originally posted by MrMindI would bet 1000 renmimbi/yuan that Mr Master created you as a sock for the purpose of satirically ridiculing KMC's DC fanboys.
odg reminds me of certain cringelord, remember him? they gotta be relatedbrother from another mother
That is how stupid you present yourself to be.
^ I should not be blamed for not knowing the exchange rate, pal.
Just let us know how many renminbis/yuan would allow for a bet on this Mr Master/MrMind bet.
Originally posted by jinzinSh1t, I was so excited with your reappearance to even realize that you were debating point-by-point with me with this post. 😮
Couple of things....>>>"Secondly, H/P Doomsday did not fight the realm of Apokolips along w/ Darkseid."<<<
Yes he did.
H/P Dooms had apparently "raged across Apokolips" for hours having "already ripped through several divisions of [Seid's] best troops" immediately before Darkseid then ordered his "elite guard" to "slow [Doomsday's] progress" which we then see getting slaughtered while stating their "most powerful guns have no effect" while demonstrating the uselessness of their exo armor which they seem to be convinced "can stop anything" before Doomsday crumples it.Desaad is pretty clearly seen begging Seid to send for off world "help before Apokolops is nught but a smoldering ruin."
And Darkseid "takes a more active roll" in light of the fact that his forces nor their weapons would "have/effect on the creature."
So what are you talking about?
And...
>>>"Well, H/P Doomsday never evolved past simple punching. So the no-limits fallacy is unavailing. And the OP never specified the battle took place on the Rainbow Bridge."<<<
H/P Doomsday is seen in three stories... "Hunter/Prey", "Doomsday Wars", and "Our Worlds At War."
In "Hunter/Prey" mullet Supes just went through a huge power boost due to regaining his powers through Kryptonite X in Superman #82, and other than when he was hulking up, he didn't seem to lose any of his power boosts when he leveled back out... And, he's got a Mother Box which is stated to give him "extra/enhanced strength" in the Hunter/Prey Superman fact file included in the action figure 2 pack one shot. So punching Doomsday would be pretty effective from a stronger and amped Superman here right? But that isn't what we see...
Hunter/Prey Supes punches Doomsday a handful of times, at one point insisting he's "tearing away at Doomsday with everything" he's got, and getting backhanded for his troubles, then again briefly staggering Doomsday off balance with an uppercut before Doomsday starts laughing at him for the effort, and finally bulldozing into Doomsday's back with a 5-mile flight build up of steam into a mountain to which Dooms simply responds with "Bah" in the aftermath, relatively unbothered.
None of those punches were very effective at all.In Doomsday Wars, after Supes removes Braniac from Doomsday's brain and transports him to the moon, Supes hits Doomsday from behind with a ftl flying bulldoze from Earth and gets in 3 whole punches before Doomsday catches his fist and hits him with enough force to send Supes hurdling into a Lantern construct with multiple Leaguers talking about how Supes is lucky Doomsday didn't take his head off...
So again, H/P Doomsday seemed to evolve beyond punching (from what we saw) just fine as Supe's strongest punches before H/P "killed" Doomsday, and a stronger/amped Supe's strongest punches after H/P did little more than stagger him, or at best, produced a bloody lip.O.W.A.W. Doomsday is pretty much cruising through fodder til he runs into Imperiex Prime but we never see a physical attack like punching as an effective measure used against him there.
In my copy of the Hunter/Prey T.P.B., in the introduction by Jurgens, he insists that "Doomsday naturally evolves beyond the capacity of his foes to beat him, he can never be defeated by the same means twice."
So once more, what are you talking about? Are you talking about Doomsday after he got turned into a quasi post-crisis Kryptonian clone by Lex? Because that's not the same as H/P Doomsday... If not, then what example are you referencing?
Can we discuss? argue
Originally posted by jinzinTo be clear though, I agree with this. 👆
Is it even a retcon? "They say" a lot of things, and unless "they" represent the 3rd person impartial narrative box, then they're just a bunch of 3rd party observers making statements and lore that might happen to be wrong. Maybe that was intended to be a retcon but if so, it's definitely one with an asterisk.
Originally posted by ODG
What clumsy-a$$ argumentum ad ignorantium is this? You don't get to shift the burden of proof onto me.
What are you even talking about retard?
Firstly, prove this proposition of your's:
[b]Why are a pre-Crisis 31st century Darkseid's feats during Great Darkness Saga applicable to pre-Crisis 20th century Darkseid who appeared in Hunter/Prey
which somehow then reverse-inflate H/P Doomsday???.
Already proved it, your schizophrenia isn't a concern for me.
Only after you achieve that initial proposition should we deign to discuss every single goddamned retcon occurring in the last 5 years.
I don't need to disprove your myth several times over. You need to start proving it. Horse don't follow the cart, pal. [/B]
Already proved it, retard. Go back and read.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂Legion is directly connected to the main universe timeline from start. Unlike in marvel universe where changing past creates an alternate timeline, altering the past of main timeline changes history of Legion.
http://imgur.com/WaZBPrp
http://imgur.com/OF4Epa6There are countless such examples scattered in the Legion comics but I doubt you have read any.
The original Legion's earth is the keystone of the Multvierse(I.E, main earth)
https://ibb.co/zFCdnDq
https://ibb.co/pR430nm
And they also say the mainstream Supergirl is in the original Legion's earth history also should further clarify this
https://ibb.co/S6JBjMF
^ So the Legion of Superheroes' own history has been constantly retconned both before and after Final Crisis. Nobody's arguing against that.
How exactly does that unremarkable concept prove that a 31st-century Darkseid's feats during Great Darkness Saga ought to apply to a 21st-century Darkseid during Hunter/Prey?
Which, is then being taken one fallacious step further to reverse-project a 31st-century Darkseid's feats during Great Darkness Saga onto H/P Doomsday who three-pieced 21st-century Darkseid during Hunter/Prey???
Originally posted by abhilegendRead what I post before slamming your face into your keyboard.
What are you even talking about retard?
Originally posted by ODG
^ So the Legion of Superheroes' own history has been constantly retconned both before and after Final Crisis. Nobody's arguing against that.How exactly does that unremarkable concept prove that a 31st-century Darkseid's feats during Great Darkness Saga ought to apply to a 21st-century Darkseid during Hunter/Prey?