Originally posted by tkitna
Yes and well said. My point though was that Michael was doing what God wanted and what God needed and God was never going to allow him to fail to save the baby.
No, God allowed Michael the chance to save the baby. Michael, the mother and the other guy all work together to make sure this happened.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
No, God allowed Michael the chance to save the baby. Michael, the mother and the other guy all work together to make sure this happened.
The baby was the savior of humanity. The Lord was not going to allow Gabriel to kill or take the baby. Michael was always going to win.
Originally posted by tkitnathat's your interpretation. My interpretation is the baby was fair game, may the better angel win. Fortunately mankind and the better Angel did win. Besides, if God was never going to allow the baby to be killed, why did he give the order to kill mankind off at the beginning?
The baby was the savior of humanity. The Lord was not going to allow Gabriel to kill or take the baby. Michael was always going to win.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
that's your interpretation. My interpretation is the baby was fair game, may the better angel win. Fortunately mankind and the better Angel did win. Besides, if God was never going to allow the baby to be killed, why did he give the order to kill mankind off at the beginning?
He gave the order to see how the angels would react. Michael was his favorite angel and he knew how he would react. It was a test to the rest of them.
God doesn't make mistakes. That's being overlooked here for some reason.
Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, God sacrificed hundreds of thousands of humans to let them get possessed and even more who got killed by them. He planned on going through with his plan if none of the angels actually stepped up.
He knew Michael would though. It's not like he doesn't know. It was an example the other angels had to have.
He could've hoped and assumed, but he didn't know. For example, God didn't know Lucifer would rebel. He didn't know Adam would fall for Eve's temptation and get them kicked out of Eden. That's the whole point of free will. He can make the test, but it's up to you whether you pass or fail. So you can't say for 100% certain God knew Michael would go against his orders to do what was right. He also could've just gone along with Gabriel.
Originally posted by KingD19
He could've hoped and assumed, but he didn't know. For example, God didn't know Lucifer would rebel. He didn't know Adam would fall for Eve's temptation and get them kicked out of Eden. That's the whole point of free will. He can make the test, but it's up to you whether you pass or fail. So you can't say for 100% certain God knew Michael would go against his orders to do what was right. He also could've just gone along with Gabriel.
We'll have to agree to disagree. No biggie.
God knows all. He knew all of those things were going to happen. Yes, he gives us all free will, but he knows what we are going to do. He knows we are all weak and fail on a regular basis. He got fed up with us once and took out almost everybody with the floods. He is going to do so again with fire (Revelations). He sent down his only son in guise of himself. Jesus knew Peter was going to betray him 3 times and even told him so even when Peter had freewill. Jesus knew he was going to die and told his prophets it was written as such. Etc,,,.
God knows all. He knew the outcome before it even happened. That's why i'll bail on this thread because the movie maybe did not portray it that way and my take is to literal.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Dude, now you're just trolling. Give it up. A demigod cannot defeat an archangel. Archangel blade, dude.
Did you just mix up Supernatural and Legion? Also just because you want the Michael to be stronger than Persues doesn't mean he is. Persues is stronger and will crush him in close quarters.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulkno, Michael had machine guns and rocket launchers in the movie legion. You should probably watch it sometime.
Did you just mix up Supernatural and Legion? Also just because you want the Michael to be stronger than Persues doesn't mean he is. Persues is stronger and will crush him in close quarters.
LOL no, Perseus is not stronger than Gabriel.
Answer me this, where do you stand on religion? Are you Christian?
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
no, Michael had machine guns and rocket launchers in the movie legion. You should probably watch it sometime.LOL no, Perseus is not stronger than Gabriel.
Answer me this, where do you stand on religion? Are you Christian?
No, I am not Christian.
And I say Perseus is stronger than Gabriel because he has the feats to back it up. There is no biblical angel in this fight, just two characters loosely based on Christian theology.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Okay, respect. Me too. Let's compare the Christian God to the Greek Gods. Where does our Christian God get his power from? And where did the Greek Gods get their power from?
LoL, dude. Need to drop this silly angle.
To the ancient Greeks their gods were as real to them as the Jewish/Abrahamic God is to you. But this is a fight based on fictional movie characters, stick to the rules.