Originally posted by Infinaut616Oh and how would you guys compare Atom's feat to Mxy's feat in Worlds Funnest? Same tier or is one greater?
Whether the series is canon or not shouldn't really matter right? The multiverse is still canon, and that's what Cap Atom obliterated and remade with ease. Multiple times.
Originally posted by Infinaut616
Oh and how would you guys compare Atom's feat to Mxy's feat in Worlds Funnest? Same tier or is one greater?
Depends.
Was Atom's feat just the "local" multiverse(ie. the Orrery of [52] Worlds)? Or was it the infinite multiverse? Or was it either of those + Hypertime? Or was it the multiverse + Hypertime + higher dimensions as well? I dunno, because "multiverse" can mean different things in DC cosmology, depending on the context. /shrug
I only mention this because Mxy did destroy all of the above, and casually remade it all with a snap. And he apparently does this on a weekly basis.
tl;dr
Captain Atom's feat can potentially be in the same tier as Mxy's, but it really can't be greater imho.
Originally posted by Infinaut616👆
Whether the series is canon or not shouldn't really matter right? The multiverse is still canon, and that's what Cap Atom obliterated and remade with ease. Multiple times.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998👆
I personally would view they're on the same tier.
There are some minor points can be debated(like Captain Atom seems to do it more frequent, but on the other hand, Mxy not only destroyed infinite universes but also all dimensions etc)
But largely I would say they're on the same tier.
Originally posted by Galan007👇
Depends.Was Atom's feat just the "local" multiverse(ie. the Orrery of [52] Worlds)? Or was it the infinite multiverse? Or was it either of those + Hypertime? Or was it the multiverse + Hypertime + higher dimensions as well? I dunno, because "multiverse" can mean different things in DC cosmology, depending on the context. /shrug
I only mention this because Mxy did destroy all of the above, and casually remade it all with a snap. And he apparently does this on a weekly basis.
tl;dr
Captain Atom's feat can potentially be in the same tier as Mxy's, but it really can't be greater imho.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85👆
So it's greater, imho 👆
Originally posted by Galan007👆
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Originally posted by Stoic100% agreed they're on two different levels given that Phoenix has never casually obliterated/recreated a multiverse...
I’d say the Phoenix because of the nature of its powers which are psionic and cosmic, if Jean is the host it has tremendous TP disruptive ability as well. I have no doubt that Captain Atom is a powerhouse, but they’re on two different levels.
... oh wait, sorry.
Originally posted by Galan007superpoke
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85Multiple Black Label comics clearly involve alternate universes and are clearly non-canon. 👇
I, completely unrelated, and completely out of the blue, think that all Black Label feats should be considered canon 👆
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXDarkSaint85 was likely being a sarcastic nonce. And your position is sensible and obvious. Given what has been published under DC's Black Label imprint, you'd be stupid to argue in a binary manner that they are either all canon or all non-canon by definition.
i'm definitely on board with thinking of all the comics as canon until we have a reason to believe otherwise
Not unless you want to argue that Frank Miller's Superman: Year One and Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child are canon. Conversely, not unless you want to argue that Three Jokers and all of Animal Man & Sandman are non-canon.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Could never.With this expansion on Lore the full Phoenix Force is literally TOAAs creation arm. Lets not conflate the full Phoenix Force/White Hot Room with firebird manifestations. It'd be the equivalent of DCs Source. Is Captain Atom stomping the Source?
A lot of people don’t realize just how powerful the Phoenix is. She’s very high up there.