Order of the Phoenix - OFFICIAL THREAD - ~*~SPOILERS~*~

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As far as I am aware it was not Avada Kedrava which is a green light. As for the Threstals, I cannot remember JK Rowling ever saying that Harry actually saw the death of his parents. He sees their death in book 3 in flashbacks, BUT, it never says that they are from his point of view. Therefore you have to wait until Cedric dies for Harry to be able to seem them.

Please correct me if I am wrong!

what did yoiu find confusin abt the thestrals?

Originally posted by Phoenix
what did yoiu find confusin abt the thestrals?

Nothing...

i thot the dementors focused on memories which would mean that Harry saw them both die and besides he also saw Cedric die in the 4th book that might be why he can see the Thestrals. i could be wrong 'bout the dementors anyway, 🙄

Originally posted by Bad_Hair_Day
i thot the dementors focused on memories which would mean that Harry saw them both die and besides he also saw Cedric die in the 4th book that might be why he can see the Thestrals. i could be wrong 'bout the dementors anyway, 🙄

To be honest, I can't remember why he couldn't see them before. It may be to do with how he saw his flashbacks, i.e in whos view?

The reason he can see them now is indeed because of Cedric dying.

OMG

I really really really wanna know who dies! I can't wait to get my book... I don't have any money or I would... I just wanna know who dies and I willll beee happyyy! My sn on AIM is leadscheers101 and on yahoo is ashes0306... IM me with the answer if ya dont want everyone else ta know!

Re: OMG

Originally posted by Starzrpurple03
I really really really wanna know who dies! I can't wait to get my book... I don't have any money or I would... I just wanna know who dies and I willll beee happyyy! My sn on AIM is leadscheers101 and on yahoo is ashes0306... IM me with the answer if ya dont want everyone else ta know!

Please for the love of god do not spoil the ending! It is quite an amazing and an emotional ending. Read it! Do not spoil the book for yourself!

If anyone is gonna ask for spoilers, my advice is don't bother because it will spoil (duh) it for you, so you might as well read the book. We will try our hardest not to tell you, so READ THE BOOK YOURSELF!!!

Anyway, i loved the book. I read it really quickly when I first got it, then I read it slowly, and the second time I got loads more from it. It's so sad when he dies, but the book moved on so quickly it was easy not to cry. I love the action bits, and also the slow bits - Rowling's a great writer! The book is so much darker than the first four, and harry is soooooo angry ( 😠 ) but there are so many funny bits - see fred and geroge. I loved this book so much (can you tell?) and all the the characters are so good. even the evil teacher.

thats my impression of the book!

if someone asks for spoilers its because they want to know. if somebody tells me now what happens by the time i actually read the book i wont remember!
not to mention that when i read the others i already knew the stories and that didnt ruin it!

Re: OMG

Originally posted by Starzrpurple03
I really really really wanna know who dies! I can't wait to get my book... I don't have any money or I would... I just wanna know who dies and I willll beee happyyy! My sn on AIM is leadscheers101 and on yahoo is ashes0306... IM me with the answer if ya dont want everyone else ta know!

they have already said who dies in the other posts. at the biginning!

I think I'll wait for soft cover too

oh yeah... avada kedavras green... i remember now😛
thestrals sound really cool... cant wait to see them in the movies... mind you, theyll probably wreck it like they did with the basilisk... sorry, i think the movies coulda been a bit better.

I too was really sad that he had died. However it wasn't as easy for the author to kill him off. I watched the interview on Good Morning America with Katie Couric and she said that it just kind of happened and that she too cried!

I just hope she doesn't kill off Lupin or Mad Eye next, because they are really good to Harry and so is Hagrid and Professor McConagoll(however you spell it). Because they are all the elder ones left that always seem to look out for Harry's best interest, and show it. Dumbledore cares, but doesn't really show it til the end most of the time.

sirius died??? who's that?

don't you all think that the one who died dies unfairly? it seems he just lose his footing after being stun and falls into the ....

*cries*

sux sux sux!!!!
Sirius' the one family he has left!! n after Snape's memory, she cant juss get rid of Sirius like dat!!
he's mah fave character of all.. *sobs*
I was started to get worried when they went thru all of his family.. but think mah unconscious mind juss wont lemme think bout it further.. till all the fight.. i had to read n re-read again, dat Sirius was one of the ppl who got to save Harry n the others!
I cried for like a hour before can carry on reading the book after he died... and once harry open Sirius' gift... i couldnt help but cryin again!! gawdd!!! *sobs*
have never cried over a book before.. Rowling's real good..

😠 Real upset bout Dumbledore, tho... cant he help Sirius, first?! All others were aurors!! they can take care of themselves..

Tis is by far the most tragic HP of all.. and I hate tis one the most (not sayin dat it's the WORSE.. just hate it! )
wut next?! no more Fred n George?!??! well.. there might be sum.. but not at school.. how uncool is dat?!

and Cho turned out to be such a b*****, I find. I mean, I get the impression dat she's only using Harry to get to know how Cedric dies in details as evryone else.
Ginny's far far more confident here... love it when she beat Cho (go, Ginny!! ) But Harry n Ginny.. owhh no! dun see those 2 together.

kay.. yeah.. was dat too long?!
awh well.. 😕

*still upset bout Sirius' death*

would Sirius being a ghost be such a good idea?? as much as I want him back, not as ghost, tho. I mean, he'll be forever stuck! first in Azkaban (while he's innocent), then in his very own house (which he hated so much), then to be a ghost?! naahh..

*gasps* u dunno who Sirius is?!
umm..it's worse! naw all u can think about when u read bout Sirius for the first time, u'd know already.. *sighs*

hey.. dun think we need to put the spoiler thingy.. i mean, the title of the thread itself has warned ppl, ait?!
if they know wut's good for them, then dun click.. 😕

as for the person who died! think I'm gonna b upset bout tis for a couple of days naw..
Moody dies?! I can live wid dat. But him?!??! goodness, no!! 🙁🙁🙁

Order of the pheonix spoilers!!!!!!

***SPOILER ALERT***

The book begins with Harry and his cousin Dudley being attacked by 2 dementors in their neighborhood. Harry conjures a patronous, and chases them off. After returning home, Harry receives a letter via owl saying he is immediately expelled from Hogwarts, and must face a committee at the Ministry of Magic for illegally using magic. Then, he receives several other letters, one from Dumbledore, informing him to not leave the house, he isn't expelled, and all will be sorted out. After a couple of days, several wizards (Lupin, Moody, Tonks, & others) show up and take Harry away for protection. They travel by broom to the headquarters of the "Order of the Phoenix." Essentially, they are the "Old Crowd" Dumbledore referred to in book 4. The headquarters is located in London, at Sirius Black's home. Black's home is hidden to everyone by great magic. Harry waits here for his hearing, and learns about Black's ancestry. Apparently, all the wizards in his family were dark wizards, who hated Muggles, and his cousin is the dark witch who tortured the Longbottoms into hysteria. Harry also learns that Sirius is related to the Malfoys. Most pure-blooded wizard families are related says Black. Here, Harry reunites with Hermione & Ron, who tell him the Percy has sided with Cornelius Fudge, and has dis-owned his family.

Well, Mr. Weasley takes Harry to his hearing. It's in the same room they had the trials for all the Dark Wizards Harry saw in the pensieve. Cornelius Fudge, head of the Ministry of Magic, is still denying the reports that He Who Has Not Been Named has returned, wants to discredit Harry, & dismiss him from the wizarding world. As Harry tries to defend himself, Dumbledore appears and saves the day. Harry is not expelled, and can return to Hogwarts.

Back at the Black Mansion, Harry continues to dream of a dark corridor, and his scar hurts. You find out the Order of Phoenix is the group that formed to battle Voldemort long ago, and Harry's parents, along with the Weasley's, the Longbottoms, and several others were members. Many of the wizards were killed. Not much is told about their currents plans, or what is happening, and this is very frustrating as a reader. Right before heading back to school, the new prefects are named. It's Hermione & ...... RON! Much to Harry's displeasure.

Everyone returns to school. There is a new Defense Against the Dark Arts professor. She is a witch who works with Fudge at the ministry of Magic. I can't remember her name, (there are so many new characters) so I will refer to her as the Inquisitor. Well, her and Harry become enemies right away, and he spends most of the first two weeks in detention. The Inquisitor will not allow any practical learning of Defense Against the Dark Arts, they will only read Ministry approved material, and forbids anyone to say the Dark Lord has returned. Harry continues to speak up about what happened, even with McGonagal, Hermione, & Ron telling him otherwise, and Harry keeps getting in trouble. Their is also a new Care of Magical Creatures Professor, because Hagrid is mysteriously absent. Also in the first week, Gryffindor gets a new Quidditch Keeper, Ron.

Harry continues to struggle in Snape's class, the Inquisitor's class, and he continues to dream about the corridor, while his scar keeps hurting, and he hears the maniacal laugh of the dark lord in his head. As things go on, the Inquisitor is named, "The Grand Inquisitor" by the Ministry, and begins to evaluate the teaching at Hogwarts. (It seems many believe Dumbledore is trying to create an army to overthrow Fudge as the head of the Ministry.) Many rules are created by the Inquisitor, aggravating Harry & company.

One night, Harry dreams again, this time from the point of view of a snake. He see's himself sliding along the floor, and attacking someone. He is woken up by Ron, and Harry tells him his father's been attacked. They are rushed to Dumbledore's office, where he takes them via port key to Black's home. In one moment, Harry is tempted to attack even Dumbledore.

We find out that Mr. Weasley was protecting something in the corridor Harry dreams about, and was brutally attacked by a snake. He survives, and while at the Wizard Hospital, they run into Neville, who is there visiting his parents, who were driven crazy by Sirius' cousin.

Hagrid returns, he's in bad shape. He went to sway the giants to join the Order, but they wouldn't. He returns as their professor. Harry continues to have dreams, and worry he's under the control of the Dark Lord. Dumbledore has Snape begin teaching Harry how to defend himself from mind control.

Several dark wizards escape from Azkaban. So, Harry & many others form a group with Harry teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts. This is illegal under the Inquisitor's orders They get caught, and Harry is brought before Dumbledore & Fudge. Dumbledore says he ordered the students to learn these arts, and Fudge tries to arrest Dumbledore, who flattens them all & escapes. The Inquisitor becomes Headmistress, and the school becomes like a prison, with no one being able to do much of anything.

Harry has another dream that Sirius is being tortured by Voldemort, and decides to go to the Ministry where he see's it happening (this is a long involved segment, and I will let you read it, because it's very good). Harry's class decides to go with him. They go to the ministry, and it is mysteriously empty. They proceed to the corridor, where they keep going deeper and deeper into the Ministry. They make it to the place where Harry saw Sirius being tortured, and no one is there. Ron suddenly saws, "Harry, look at this." On a shelf, is a glass container labeled, "Harry & Voldemort." Puzzled, Harry takes it from the shelf, and hears someone tell him, "Give it to me Potter." He turns around, and they are surrounded by Death Eaters (Voldemort's followers). Lucious Malfoy continues to demand "the prophecy" from Harry. Harry realizes they won't hurt him because they need the container. There is a great pursuit, with many of the students doing well because of Harry's teaching. Harry is running, and get's trapped in a room with several Death Eaters, when it's looking it's worst, Sirius, Lupin, Moody, & Tonks burst in, and the Order starts dueling the Death Eaters. As Harry tries to escape the room with the container, it gets smashed, and he hears words being spoken. He see's Sirius dueling his cousin, and in a flash of light, Sirius is killed. Harry is devastated, and chases her out of the room. In the main hall, he attacks her, and they have a great duel, until Voldemort appears. He is about to kill Harry when Dumbledore arrives, and begins fighting both Voldemort & the Dark Witch. Dumbledore defeats them both. Voldemort and the dark witch escape. Harry & Dumbledore are then met by Fudge and many others, who finally realize that Voldemort has returned.

Dumbledore takes Harry to his office and tries to console him on the loss of Sirius. Harry is very angry, and won't listen to him. This is a very moving part in the book. Dumbledore tells Harry, "It is time Harry, that I told you everything." 15 years ago, Dumbledore was looking for a teacher of Divination. He was interviewing Trelawney in a pub in Hogsmeade. Trelawney went into a spell like trance and prophesized that "Voldemort will meet his equal, he will be born in the last of July by parents who have defeated him 3 fold. He will mark the chosen one as his equal, and neither can live while the other does." This is overheard, and gets back to Voldemort, that is why he tries to kill Harry, thinking Harry is the chose one, thus marking him his equal. Harry asks, "Does this mean that one of us has to kill the other?" And Dumbledore replies, "Yes." Dumbledore tells Harry that he has wanted to tell him this since he first came to Hogwarts, but thought he couldn't handle it. He tells Harry he was wrong, and will never forgive himself.

Harry returns to school, with Dumbledore back as headmaster, and everything essentially back to order. As the school year ends, he returns to Privet Drive for the summer

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There were 7 original planned books but I just heard that there will be many more, so I don't think Harry is going to die off any soon. She can write about how life is after school for him. Personally I think he will either become and Auror as he wants to be, or maybe he will become the PERMANENT Defense against the Dark Arts Teacher..but I dont see that as being very interesting to write about. Who knows! J.K. Rowling is very talented and I give her loads of props for the work she has done with all the books. I too was sad about the death in book 5.

I wish Snape would get some stuff thrown his way, but we all would like that so I don't think she will write about that for awhile. Besides...there's always that one teacher that he doesn't get along with.

I think book 6 is going to be excellent. The fights between Harry and Malfoy are going to be more indepth and more descriptive too. They both have all this tension that keeps building up..its bound to happen in the next book...like a full out war... b/c you have to remember Malfoy is mad b/c Harry got his death eater dad caught! 😉 😎 😎 😎

where did you hear that there would be many more?