merovingian

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He ISN'T one of them. He may have been their protector in previous Reloads. I have come up with this based on the fact that the Merovingian Kings bloodline claim they are the descendants of Christ and fought in the Crusades for him etc etc blah blah.

If you know the history you will see why I have come up with this theory.

good theory. the one thing that dessapoints me about this movie is its insinuation that neo is in a way christ.

They try to make every prophetic figure look like Christ. Anakin was born by immaculate conception, Neo has his powers, and what not. It's getting to be a real trite idea.

Kobeprodgi> Do you then claim that the Oracle in M1 didn’t do her system-job? Namely to find the One? Sometime between M1 and M2 she became an exile, and not until then, until she made the choice to HELP Neo, and needed to hide and have a bodyguard aka Seraph. She was not an exile in M1.
And the Keymaker: How is the Matrix supposed to be reloaded unless the anomaly gets to the Source? Through the door of white light with the help of the key.
Once the One has his anomaly powers the agents will have a hell of a time trying to kill him (and hence get his digital self to the Source). So the only other way to get the One to the Source is this “programmed” quest, through the Oracle and the Keymaker to the Architect. Obviously not all programs know the whole truth.
I can reboot my system, and then have programs continue like they did, before I rebooted.
And you didn’t answer my question regarding the children in the Oracles apartment.

Gabriel> But what makes you think that the previous anomalies looked exactly like Neo? It would be the easiest thing in the world for the system then, to just keep track of any Keanu Reeves look-a-like.
My point is still, that the children in the Oracles apartment show, that she’s looking for a YOUNG mind, like the gifted spoon-child. The screens in the Architects room show different states of Neos mind, and the turmoil in his thoughts, as he’s told the truth.
The prophecy has been there five times. Each run of the Matrix, (save version 1.0) started with the One rebuilding Zion with the help of 23 individuals from the Matrix, that he was allowed to take from the system. Every other human in Zion were killed by the Machines.
Then the prophecy begins. In a 100 years another anomaly will reappear, another Chosen One will have to be found and guided to the Source.
My prime noodle-baking is why the previous Ones didn’t warn humanity about the prophecy being another system of control.

Sifer> Or the historic Merovingian blood-line could be taken as proof that the Merovingian IS a previous One. I doubt it though. I haven’t figured out exactly WHAT he is, what his original purpose was. Why was he needed in previous versions of the Matrix, but not in later editions?

Celcius> Messiah figures, or saviours are not indigenous to Christianity only. They’re part of a worldwide kind of storytelling legacy. Take stories like the mentioned Star Wars, or Dune, or countless other religions. Many of them have stories of a man who will come and put things right. Someone who is DESTINED to change the course of history.
It’s getting a little boring around here, since a few religious people have usurped the story, to the point of not allowing in any other religions and stories. The W-brothers are stated non-religious, and borrow from countless myths. Islam, old Scandinavian stories, Greek mythology (a LOT there), Egyptian folklore, and a variety of Buddhist and Hindi legends.
Actually Neo is more akin to a boddhisatva. A man who attains enlightenment and realises the truth, than to a Christian savior.

Omega>The Oracle was an "Exiler" in M1. Why else would she have been interviewing "potentials" (the children). I'm of the opinion that she (the Oracle) is some kind of probability program, number cruncher, hence her fortune teller like abilities.

As for the previous "Ones", certainly they had been "unpluged" at a much earlier age than was Neo. What I'm contending is that they would not have been ready to assume the role of the "One" till they had matured physically and would have probably been around Neos' age when they were ready.

Now I made a post in "Matrix Philosophies" which explained my theory that the "One" in truth serves no purpose as far as the continuance of the Matrix. I came to this conclusion because in both movies they tried to kill Neo. Agent Smith and the Merovingian who undoubtly had knowledge of previous versions of the Matrix had no problem in dispencing with of him (Neo). Had he (Neo) really been required to return to the source to fulfill his destiny they would not have been trying to kill he. I'm of the opinion that the whole "Source", "Architect" scenario is the final form of contorl for the "One". It was sufficent to stop the previous five "Ones" from evolving further, but not this time.

I think that neo will be able to meet the Architect again , reason being is he did not reach the true potential and powers of being the one. In reloaded he only got certain basics that will be an asset to him in the present time. Rumor has it , when neo fully reaches the power of the one he will be able to bend and reshape the matrix as he sofit as Morph. said in M1. So maybe hell be able to find the architect , kill him. Then maybe run the matrix kill off all the machines and free the people. Possibly there may be a chance that smith survives , and brings back the machines in another time. How do i know this , the game Matrix Online takes place after revolutions , and the matrix still exists along with agents. So who knows.

Kobeprodi> Of course the agents TRY to kill Neo. If they succeed his digital self will, as any other program return to the Source along with the anomaly code. That is the easiest way.

As long as we can at least agree that the previous Ones were unplugged at a much younger age, we’re getting somewhere. Why the previous Ones should need to reach the age of around 30+ before taking on their roles I don’t know why you think that. In Reloaded Neos stated age is 35.

if u pay attention u would no that mero is the king of the matrix therfore he cant be the one

or a prev. one

Actually, I came up with a good theory on what the Merovingian could be.

He could be the computer's equivalent of the Anomaly.

Architect: Despite my sincerest efforts...

The Merovingian was one of his "efforts" to get rid of the need for a human "One"? It obviously didn't work as the One was still created so the Merovingian became an Exile to prevent from being deleted.

I dunno, it was just an idea I had the other night.

Omega> Why should the previous "Ones" have been around Neos age ? Perhaps I don't think it would make as good eye candy to see 5, 10, or even 15 to 20 year olds doing battle with the likes of the Merovingian and Agent Smith in the Matrix . . . . or then again maybe it would ? But sseriously, there is nothing in either of the two films M1 or M2 to suggest that the previous "Ones" would have been considerably younger than Neo was when they were ready to assume the role of the "One". Also to date there has only been one resistance member who was noticeabley younger than any of the others we have seen so far . . "Mouse" from M1 who meet his demise. Which would seem to imply that some degree of physical maturity is necessary before entering the Matrix as a fighting member of the resistance.

Whoa... this is, quite simply, bakin' my lil' noodle...