Originally posted by pr1983
if they're going to have phoenix at all juggernaut shouldnt be there... it should be one or the other...they f*cked up storm and cyclops (and to a lesser extent rogue), they should be concentrating on them first...
Arent both Phoenix and Jugs confirmed?
and i sgree with you. But I think Phoenix could lift up both Cyke and Storm. Cyke for obvious reasons, and Storm coz they could explore their friendship, and maybe they had to fight each other, though Storm would be sad. I dont see how Jugs could do that for Cyke and Storm...
Originally posted by Flavio
Arent both Phoenix and Jugs confirmed?and i sgree with you. But I think Phoenix could lift up both Cyke and Storm. Cyke for obvious reasons, and Storm coz they could explore their friendship, and maybe they had to fight each other, though Storm would be sad. I dont see how Jugs could do that for Cyke and Storm...
i agree...
both are confirmed, it could be done if it was two seperate stories...
i.e. two x-men teams, one deals with juggs, one with phoenix... but a telepath is needed to fight phoenix, and the prof would be busy with juggs...
unless they take out the fact that they're brothers...then it could be done...
angel, colossus, rogue and bobby fight juggernaut while the others fight phoenix...
unless they'll only have phoenix in it a little before bringing her in full on in x4...
Originally posted by Flavio
X4...
i like the idea of putting the youngsters to fight Juggernaut, this way it wouldnt look like Phoenix is "just one more little problem". It's a kinda "kids, fight him coz the real x-men have something much more important to do right now"...
and who'd call colossus and iceman kids with their abilities? 😛
I would say:
Team versus Juggernaut:
Rogue
Iceman
Nightcrawler
Colossus
Angel
Team versus Dark Phoenix:
Cyclops
Wolverine
Storm
Gambit
Beast
Professor Xavier
Am I missing anyone? Anyway, team Juggernaut has a wide variety of attacks, but they're all new people, so they have a hard time working together and whatnot. Also, team Phoenix is filled with heavy hitters, and the Gambit-Cyclops-Wolverine thing could spark lots of great dialogue. At some point, they free Jean of the evil natures, and with her help, they can finally beat Juggernaut.
IGN FilmForce chimes in on the recent rumors that Kitty Pryde, aka Shadowcat, will be given a bigger part in 'X-Men 3':IGN FilmForce can confirm that this is indeed the case. According to our trusty mutant insiders, Kitty will be a much bigger character in X3. She will also be the same age as Iceman (Shawn Ashmore) and Rogue (Anna Paquin). With production set to start this July in Vancouver, fans should expect some major casting announcements soon.
So Shadowcat is indeed going to have a much "bigger" role in X3, shit with all this being put into the film, I'm thinking its going to run close three hours if anything.
CHUD has a quick rundown of what director Matthew Vaughn said about 'X-Men 3' at the New York junket for his new film, 'Layer Cake' - here's a sample:Vaughn felt that Bryan Singer treated the X-Men more simplistically and that he will expand on the themes. That I can agree on. I like Bryan, but it wasn't his individual vibe that made the films great. Devin also says that Vaughn promises 3-4 scenes where people are shocked and close to tears.
WOW! this has me thinking wildly about the next film, three to four scenes that will shock us, maybe that means the death of a few X-Men so that the franchise can move forward, or maybe I reading between the lines too much.
Originally posted by NoFate007
I would say:Team versus Juggernaut:
Rogue
Iceman
Nightcrawler
Colossus
AngelTeam versus Dark Phoenix:
Cyclops
Wolverine
Storm
Gambit
Beast
Professor XavierAm I missing anyone? Anyway, team Juggernaut has a wide variety of attacks, but they're all new people, so they have a hard time working together and whatnot. Also, team Phoenix is filled with heavy hitters, and the Gambit-Cyclops-Wolverine thing could spark lots of great dialogue. At some point, they free Jean of the evil natures, and with her help, they can finally beat Juggernaut.
i was thinkin the same thing about havin 2 teams then phoenix coming in to save the day from juggy later on. ✅
Matthew Vaughn on X-Men 3 & Stardust
Source: SHH!
April 22, 2005
Director Matthew Vaughn has been making films for a number of years, working as the producer of Guy Richie's three films. When Richie declined on directing the crime drama Layer Cake, Vaughn stepped up and decided to take up the directorial reins. Even before the movie was released in the States, it was announced that Vaughn would also be taking over for Bryan Singer on X-Men 3, much to the surprise of many fans of the franchise.
Almost a month to the date of the announcement, Vaughn was in New York to talk about Layer Cake, so ComingSoon.net/SuperheroHype.com had a chance to learn more about how he got involved in that highly-anticipated project, as well as a second comic book project, and to get his thoughts on how he will approach them.
"It was a mutual finding of each other," Vaughn told us when asked about how his involvement with X-Men 3 came about. "I heard Singer wasn't doing it, and I just told my agent that I'd be intrigued and asked "can you get me in a room?" They saw the film and really liked it. 'X-Men' has sort of taken me by surprise. One of the reasons I'm attracted to it is also the reason why I'm scared of it, is that it's such a short amount of time to get it done. I thought maybe it would be good to do it because there's a lot for me to learn if I do it. The irony is that I haven't got the luxury of casting most of these guys, which is going to be odd, especially if I don't like what they're doing, cause I'm going to have to pull them aside and tell them to ignore everything they did in the last film."
Many people wonder how Vaughn's approach will differ from Singer's two films. "I can emphasize with what's gone on," he said. "I think Singer probably treats it in a more simplistic manner then I'm going to. It's going to expand on things. There's three or four scenes I know people will just be shocked and close to tears."
Things like that tend to make fans worried, but Vaughn didn't seem to nervous about the amount of pressure of him to follow in Singer's footsteps. "I'm all for fans being wary of me; they've got the right to be," he explained. "I'm just going to make the film as good as I can, and hopefully, they'll like it. I know that there's going to be elements I'm going to be bringing to it that will worry the fans in the sense that I want to make a movie that stands up in twenty, thirty years time basically. The film I'm doing is more in the tone of [the Clint Eastwood Western] 'Unforgiven'." He wasn't too worried about the bigness of this type of project compared to his smaller-scale debut. "I just want to make films that I think are entertaining. I like the idea of doing big budget films with a heart."
Vaughn is hoping that his long-time pal Vinnie Jones would be in the movie, more than likely as Juggernaut, but he hasn't signed anything yet. "What's interesting about Juggernaut is that he's the brother of Professor X, and that's why I thought it would be interesting having an English thug opposite Patrick Stewart." Vaughn wasn't too familiar with the origin of the character, but he didn't think it would have anything to do with Vietnam, as with Stan Lee's origin. He said that he had been looking into the Dark Phoenix story, but admitted that he thought "bits of it are great but other bits are a mess."
A few months ago, it was announced that Vaughn would also produce and direct an adaptation of Neil Gaiman and Charles Vess' graphic novel Stardust sometime after he finishes X-Men 3. "I've written the treatment, but I'm not a writer, so I'm just trying to find the right writer," he updated us. "Obviously, to make it into a movie, I have to change it a bit, and put a new third act on. It's going to be cool, sort of like 'Princess Bride' meets 'Midnight Run'." Vaughn mentioned that he has some limited edition art that Charles Vess sent him, but that his movie would look somewhat different. "The way he paints is very Victorian in a way, but I want it to have more of a modern look. I think the problem is that when people say 'we're going to do a fairy tale, so therefore, let's shoot it in a fairytale way.' I wanted to shoot it more modern and grittier."
Vaughn wasn't sure which film he'd get to first after finishing X-Men 3, since he also has a spy film with writer John Hodge on his plate, which was originally intended as a film version of The Man from U.N.C.L.E..
With two very different comic book movies on his plate, we had to ask whether Vaughn was a fan of the medium. "I like comic books, but I don't read them like I used to," he told us. "I quite like graphic novels more than comic books. That's how I got to know Neil Gaiman. I like to be entertained and I like good stories. I think people who write comics take them very seriously, so you get that serious application to quite a commercial world." He wouldn't tell us what his favorite comics were because they might give away the plot for X-Men 3. According to him, " they have become the basis for the film", but he did admit a fondness for Joss Whedon's recent run on the characters.
In the meantime, Layer Cake opens in New York and Los Angeles on May 13, and elsewhere after that.