The Prophesy of Balance

I find your lack of faith disturbing..

I figured you'd say something like that. How predictable 😉

queeq out

Just going with the flow. 😮‍💨

To comment on topic, it would appear we will have to wait to see if this "prophesy" appears in a more concise or well-defined form amongst Jedi/Sith mythology. Not that its going to be chiseled in stone or anything, but surely any balance has to be an even amount of good/bad or light/dark. You know, the old a pound of feathers weighs the same as a pound of gold thing.

Well I think that "point of view" will not work. Lucas' balance does not have to do with balanced amounts of good and bad, like yin and yang. He clearly stated that evil creates unbalance. Goodness IS balance. Even the OT was clear that little things led to the Dark Side and once you start down the dark path (even when there is still good in you like in Vader's case) forever will it dominate your destiny and will it unbalance the Force.

queeq out

Thank you for that insightful post, queeq. But I like unbalance in the force. Makes more exciting plot twists. 🙂

That's why we will have six movies. And no prologues and epilogues.

queeq out

My my my...Gunny is an impetuous woman...😂

and like I said...it has to end sometime..

It ends after Ep3.

queeq out

I don't agree that once you start down the dark path that it will forever dominate your destiny. You say that Vader is forever dominated by the darkside, then why in one of the closing shots of RotJ do we see Anakin(Vader) standing once again with Obiwan and yoda. All people are capable of change. That is what the story tells us. That there is good in everyone and all people can change. If Vader was forever controlled by the darkside then he would never have saved LuKe and destroyed the Emperor. He would have kept following orders and the story would have had a shitty ending. But it didn't, because he broke away from the evil and changed back to the good.

But now you are forgetting one thing. GL says Vader is the chosen one. That is why ONLY Vader could actually turn back. He was special.

queeq out

I think anyone could turn back, even Palpatine.

They only have to WANT to do it, and that's the hard part

I kind of get the impression that turning back would kill him..not that that's such a big deal in the scheme of things..but I was under the impression that the dark side had engulfed him body and soul.

Maybe by the tiome of the OT, but before that he seemed OK.

But Yoda said quite clearly: "Once you start down the dark path, FOREVER will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will." He obviously concludes that turning back is impossible.

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The only way Vader could turn back is to destroy the emperor(sith master)and by doing so he would bring balance to the force because he destroyed himself as vader which again "freed" Anakins "spirit?". No more bad guys.
By destroying the emperor he also destroyed himself the siths were beaten and that allowed Anakin to return as a jedi.(siths aren`t jedi, they are just trained in the skills and the force as jedis are).
Im just thinking out loud so it might be an unstuctured reply but even so... 😉

I think Anakin regained his Jedi-ness (if we can speak of thatat all) at the moment he decided to throw Palpy down the shaft. Not when Palpy died.

queeq abides

Same outcome though

Yes, but that would have been the same if Luke decided to turn to the Dark Side and would have destroyed the Emperor togehter with Vader. So the outcome's not an argument, it's the heart that matters.

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Then Vader and Luke would rule the galaxy with ultimate dark side power. That would have been so cooooooool !!! 😮‍💨

It wouldn`t be the same, if luke turned to the dark side and destroyed the emperor with vaders help, then vader would become sith master and luke his apprentice.
This way there would be two siths and no jedis(not counting leia).
What I am saying is that when Luke is on the verge of being destroyed Vader acts as Anakin and saves his son.
Vader had a little Anakin left in him and by acting the way he did, he made sure at least one jedi remained to keep the balance of the force. No more bad guys to upset the balance the prophesy is fulfilled