I'm sorry you feel that way, finti, and you're certainly entitled to your own opinion and beliefs(or lack thereof), but perhaps you could soften your expression a little so as not to offend anyone here. There is a topic under GD about religion that we all discussed in an orderly and polite manner. Maybe you could take a minute to read through it before you post on this thread again. IMOH OC 🙂
interestedinoneofyourdiscussions,andhaveaquestion
i was leafing around the internet last night with my roomate, and came across this website. it's wonderful. we found a lot of interesting perspectives on some of our most frequent topics of discussion in relation to SW, and were hoping someone reading this may be able to shed a little light on some queries of our own. first, in reading the discussion of anakin and balancing the force, we recalled that he was prophecised to "BRING balance to the force", not necessarily being the balance itself. this said, is it pheasable that 1)in reproducing one male and one female offspring, and this theme being common amongst nearly all known earthly phylosophies (and GL's overt collaboration with a tremendous amount of them in his SW stories), that their births are in and of themselves, balancing. especially given their innate propencities to the force, via their mc-conceived father. 2)that when luke's suffering at the hands of the emporer in RJ causes vader to kill the emporer and himself, and subsequent "change of heart" propells him back into the good side of the force, that luke has then caused the death of one evil and one good jedi, thus balancing the force by returning peace to the galaxy (concept derived from a GL interview in japan). while there is much more i would like to ask, especially on this particular subject, i don't want to get on your nerves, so i'll sign off. thanx.
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Re: interestedinoneofyourdiscussions,andhaveaquestion
Ok. First of all, Jake Lloyd continually defended his playing of a "will-be-bad-guy" by saying (clearly prompted by George) that it was ok, because Anakin would bring balance to the Force in ROTJ. So obviously the idea is that the Emperor messed things over, and eliminating him put it back. I doubt if it was meant to be any more complex than that.
Mind you, I've never understood this. It's all vey well Anakin restoring balance to the force, but as Vader he was the one that made it possible to unbalance it in the first place! We can be fairly certain that only Vader was poweful enough to bring around the fall of the Jedi. So all he does in ROTJ is oput right what he made wrong- oh, after the Empire has made the Galaxy an unhappy place and blown up a major planet and wiped out the Guardians of Truth and Justice in the Galaxy.
A better prophecy would have been "Kill the Chosen One before he messes up the Galaxy. Don't bother waiting for him to put it right again! It's simpler this way!"
But back to my original point, Lucas is clearly using balance purely as an idea of good and evil- so things ARE balanced as they stand at the start of Episode I, even if in a LITERAL sense it's unbalanced in favour of the good guys. Unbalance= rise of evil. Anything more complex than that is unncessary.
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But things aren't really balanced because you have hidden sith lurking and waiting for a chance to strike..just because everyone was clueless to their existance doesn't mean that they didn't have power. Infact, I'd say that they were very powerful...they'd have to be to able to hide from the jedi for a millinia. And it also shows how the jedi weren't as in tune to the Force as they thought they were. It was like they were in denial about the whole thing in some ways.
And jeffrey I think you have a good point about the need for Anakin's actions in relation to the prophecy..and I don't know why exactly he would have to leave a son AND a daughter (the first thing that popped into my mind was that it sounded like they were supposed to get together *ick!* My mind's always in the gutter 😂 ) but I do find it intriguing..
Re: interestedinoneofyourdiscussions,andhaveaquestion
You know, I always saw it as simple as this:
1. A prophecy is made, an even longer time ago.
2. The Sith return, as masterminded by Darth Sidious
3. Anakin, the Chopsen One, is meant to be the one who defeats the Sith and restores the balance. But things mess-up, and he joins them instead.
4. The surviving Jedi, Ben and Yoda, hatch a plan to safeguard Leia and Luke on the idea that perhaps one of them is the chosen one instead, and they had got it wrong before.
5. Luke has to go in earlier than planned, gets beaten by the Emperor, but then Anakin changes back at the last moment, kills the Emperor, and it turns out he WAS the Chosen One after all, but he was a bit late about it.
So in its totallity (overall plot-wise rather than character-wise), it's about the disastrous failure to fulfill a prophecy, followed by a heroic saving of the Prophecy at the last moment (character-wise, it's about a good guy turning bad and then redeeming, of course). But I really think the Balance is a very simple thing.
balance
Am I missing the point here. Surely Balance means , just that, to equals , a equal split , same on both sides etc etc etc. Anakin does bring balance to the force. He kills all the jedi leaving only 2 left (Yoda and obi wan, the obi wan and luke becomes the learner so to speak) So he does bring balance.
'Luke you are going to find that many of the truths we cling to , depend on your point of view'