In two towers there is that line from gandalf as he is leaving Edoras that says some thing like "500 lives of men have I spent going as I may, now I am needed everywhere." that's not exactly it. But if the average life of a man in middle earth is around 100 than we know that he has lived about 500 years in middle earth but he had lived before as he he is an istari. and istaris are a special division of the maia
aragorn is no more than 100 😉 or i think he could get more than 100 iono.....but not by average lifespan
thranduil is one of the earliest ppl that sails across from valinor (ithink) or is that gil galad...iono, so thats prolly from the First age, and thranduil is STILL alive i think.....legolas shouldnt be that old cus they didnt say anything about him during "the hobbit" and oh well....hey i didnt know gandalf was sayin that when he was facing the balrog...you guys make me look bad! lol 😕 💃
Originally posted by fini
hmmmm well with my research Elrond is over 4700 yrs old.......And not all elves are immortal, and i'm lookinf just for when they die ( but since most of them go to the great havens, then death is not important)....i wanna know when they were bornAnd chica, during the MOVIE Gandalf did not get his elf ring yet Cirdan still had his, gandalf got his ring when they were leaving for the shire
That is incorrect. Gandalf already had it but when he was leaving from Middle Earth he wore it openly.
Originally posted by Mormegil
Gandalf is about 1,900 years old. Him, Saruman, Rhadagast, and the two unnamed Blue Wizards arived in Middle-Earth around 1,100 years after the start of the Third Age, and the LotR takes place around 3,018 years after the start of the Third Age. I happen to know that the Istari (Wizards) are all Maiar, lesser beings than the Valar but still great. Sauron and the Balrogs are also Maiar, only they were drawn into evil by the power and splendor of Morgoth. The Valar, The Lords of the West, held a council together about the growing threat of evil from Dol Guldur. They agreed to send 5 Maiar in the form of Men, and they were forbade to take dominion over the lives of others, and were ordered to unite together those that would resist the Evil. These Maiar were Olorin (Gandalf), Curumo (Saruman), Aiwendil (Rhadagast), Alatar and Pallando (The Blue Wizards). All Valar and Maiar were created by Eru Iluvatar before the creation of the World. Therefore, Gandalf's actual age would be 50,000 at the least. For though some Valar were created before other Valar and some Maiar were created before other Maiar, all were, as I said, created before the beginning of the World, and the time from when the first Valar were created and when they all descended upon the World was not long (maybe some thousands at most). But after the beginning of the World, tens of thousands of years past before Elves first awoke in Middle-Earth, and then it was at least another 10,000 years before the waking of Men and the first rising of the Sun. On that day (I believe) was the First Day of the First Age, and from that time to the time of LotR, another 10,000 years passed at absolute least.All in all, Gandalf is around 1900 years old (after Olorin took that form, thus becoming Gandalf), though if you consider Gandalf'a age to be Olorin's age, he could be anywhere from 50,000 years old to 100,000 years old, possibly even older.
NOTE: Although both Olorin and Sauron are Maiar, Sauron is more powerful. For some Valar are weaker to other Valar, and some Maiar are weaker than other Maiar. The strengths of the Maiar can very greatly, as a Maia can be as weak as a Ring-Wraith or as strong as a Vala.
Sarumans name is actually Curunir