What made 'im go bad?

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What made 'im go bad?

Searching for: an answer to that annoying question...what made Anakin Skywalker go after the Dark Side? All informed replies welcome. 馃槃

Well, he hates OB1 because he thinks that he and Amidala have an affair. So they battle on a vulcan. And that combined with some other small things, like he thinks the JC has no faith in him, ...

Nobody knows for sure. Its a combination of a lot of things, hate, anger, fear, jealousy and other things. Everyone assumes his mother dies and that plays some part.

Obviously his Mother is the presented link.

I am certain that Anakin fell through trying to do the right thing. Yoda tells Luke that if he goes up against the Emperor too early, he would suffer the same fate as his father. Now, that might have been a general comment, or it MIGHT have meant that Anakin was turned on his very mission to destroy Sidious, that he rushed into.

I think his mother is murdered and somehow he comes to blame the JC for her death

[ July 23, 2001: Message edited by: mk1979 ]

Perhaps he did the same as Luke years later: for completing a mission he turned to the dark side, but perhaps Annakin couldn't be turned back because Sidi let him believe that his mother was killed by Jedis?

More by lack of actions by the Jedi.

But I do think Palpy plays a big part in it, in influencing Anakin's perception of the world. Remember Palpy trying to manipulate Luke's mind up on the DS2. But he didn't have much on Luke, just his friends.
But on Anakin he has much more: his mother, starting his training at an old age, Jedi not appreciating his chosenness and his powers, Jedi not wanting him to marry, OB1 seemingly turning against him. So it'll be a lot of things, a culmination of events and actions that bring Anakin to this point.

IMHO OC.

I think it was basic lack of control of himself and his emotions.

I still like the idea that he goes into the Dark Side willingly, knowing that to be the only way of defeating the Emperor.
Perhaps, in order to realise his full potential, Anakin must experience both sides of the force? Having his children around to pull him out of the Dark Side's influence, as Luke does in ROTJ, would then be of key concern to both Anakain and the JC.
So, maybe Anakin succombs to the Dark Side in order to fight fire with fire, so to speak. (?)

No! That fundamentally undermines Anakin's storyline! He DID go bad! Thgere was nothing noble about it right up until the end of ROTJ. He DID go bad, he went bad because he WANTED to, and that is the tragedy of it.

So, Annie was a baaad little boy!
Where did you get the evidence that he turned by his free will?

No evidence as such, but the enitre crutch of the story is that he CHOSE his path.

Then let me rephrase it: why do you think that?

Why do I think he chose his own path? As far as GL is concenred, it is the moral of the story.

GL quote:

"Star Wars is a story of how a good man turns bad and is redeemed by his son"

The essence of this involves him choosing to go bad and his son showing him where he was mistaken. If Anakin went bad as some sort of plan to defeat the Empire, the whole redemption plot-line is destroyed.

Presumably, he tutned bad thinking it was the right thing to do, and before he knew it he was evil.

"Star Wars is a story of how a good man turns bad and is redeemed by his son"

That still doesn't explain fully that it was his own chose. Turns still can be willingness/unwillingness. But he was already angry in EpI for everything, so ...

Presumably, he tutned bad thinking it was the right thing to do, and before he knew it he was evil.

Yeah, You're right I also blow up planets just before lunch!
You just can't turn to the Dark Side because you think it is good, how hard it is, Light is always the good choice

I think Anakin makes his choices thinking it's the best of all options. And when he realises what he has done or chosen, "it is too late for me my son. You do not understand the power of the Dark Side. I MUST obey my master."

BEsides, I think he likes being evil. The way he held up that Rebel soldier in ANH by the neck..... he loved it.

I think this is where Palpy comes into play. I think he makes Anakin believe that the Jedi-way is wrong, the Jedi are bad and that his way gives him more in every way, including power and control. We may see the poitn where Anakin believes the whole universe is against him.

Perhaps he has to be a Jedi very quickly for saving his mother (this is his weak spot: "Your thought dwell on your mother.- What has that got to do witht anything?- Everything: Fear is the path to the Dark Side ..."馃槈 So he chose the quick and more easy way: the Dark Side. (thankx for that to sand person no.10 for that sentence, I forgot it for some reason)

is their not some dialog between Yoda and Luke about Vader choosing the quick and easy path, i.e. the dark side so maybe he disagrees with OB1's training and Sidious offers him the quick and easy route, although i'm sure that something else must happen to knock him over the edge

Anakin probably falls from grace due to hubris (his overweening pride) and his failure to follow the advice of Obi Wan and Yoda. The hardships that he suffers...slavery and the death of his mother certainly add to his emotional despair and ultimately help him to betray those close to him and everything the Order stands for. (Just curious what other posters think: SHOULD we feel sympathy for Anakin regardless of what has scarred him emotionally...Does this relieve him of the betrayal as well as the many murders he commits as Darth Vader?)