What made 'im go bad?

Started by queeq2 pages

If true regret of one's actions does not deserve sympathy, nothing will. Sounds like a harsh and unforgiving attitude to me. If we don't, then all of us fail the test. We all do stupid things and we do not always regret them. Anakin did, in the end. He realised he pissed his life away.

You can kill 1 person in angre but you CAN'T kill the whole Jedi-order AND almost whipe out the entire Rebellion and STILL think you're a guy that deserve sympathy

So you disgree with Luke's actions at the end of ROTJ? You think he should have killed Vader as well?

I think Luke showed his nobility by sympathising with his Vader even before his turn, realising that Anakin was also trapped in his lair of evil.

NO! certainly NOT I was refering to Annakin! When you are in anger you can't control yourself and can not be held a 100% responsible for your actions, the death of his mother was the end, he lost his temper. Luke did great by saving his father from the Dark Side (a little late, but better late then never)

My expectation is this:

Anakin watches the assassination of the Jedi by Sidious and the appearance of the first wave of his Clone warriors. This coincides with Anakin being approached by Sidious and offered an apprenticeship - "I can only have one apprentice, and I want the most promising", type of thing.

Of course, Anakin refuses, but as more and more of his Jedi friends and colleagues die he begins to suspect the place he can most effectively work to end the conflict (and defeat the Emperor) is from behind enemy lines. He reveals his plan to OBI-WAN who is of course horrified by the suggestion - "You can't pretend to embrace the dark side - you either do, or you don't. Either way, you're doomed", type of thing.

Anakin ignores his friend’s advice and sets about surrendering to the Emperor. Left no choice, and unwilling to reveal any of this to the Jedi Council for fear that it will colour their opinion of Anakin and throw into question the completion of his training, OBI-WAN attempts to stop Anakin himself. In a last-ditch effort to put this plan out of Anakin's mind, OBI-WAN tells him that the Emperor was responsible for his mother's death (maybe) and a whole lot of stuff intended to make Anakin change his mind. Anakin then secretly checks the validity of OBI-WAN's claims and, finding that they are all fabricated, begins to distrust OBI-WAN. It is at this time that the idea of OBI-WAN having an affair with Padme is introduced as a paranoiac reaction to the loss of a close friend. This, of course, is the work of the Emperor who, having discovered Anakin's plan from a Jedi in whom OBI-WAN had confided but who had cracked during interrogation, is playing on Anakin's fears from afar (or, in the guise of Palpatine).

During Ep.III OBI-WAN gets his chance to stop Anakin (who is now losing himself to the dark side) in the sabre battle that leaves Anakin scarred in need of the armour that personified him as Vader. Knowing that Anakin has escaped, however, OBI-WAN instead turns his attention to protecting Anakin’s children knowing only they can act as catalyst for the fallen jedi’s recovery.

This is in response to an emotional plea to OBI-WAN at the end of Ep.II in which Anakin admits to feeling overwhelmed by the onslaught of the dark side and begs OBI-WAN to draw him out. The appeal is made using the force (ie, is felt) as Anakin is already resident at the Emperors pleasure and no-one knows where that is.

This would give Ep.II the opportunity for an ESB ending (something I feel strongly it should have) – the remaining Jedi have rendezvoused (possibly with the infant rebellion) but one of their number, Anakin, is lost ‘somewhere out there’ The end of Ep.II sets up Ep.III as a manhunt in much the same way ESB did with Han: the tiny craft pulls away from the fleet and pitches, a voice breaks transmission silence: “Don’t worry your highness, we’ll find him and bring him back”. The once proud ruler of Naboo, her new born children cradled in her arms, watches from the medical bay as the ship piloted by her friend, the Jedi Master, flares its engines and speeds into hyperspace…

wow! I think you should write ep VII-IX!!
There are some terrific things in!!!!!!
I hope that some of those may really come in the story

It could have been that Anakin's only descion was to go to the dark side. Maybe the light power wasn't good enough to defeat someone evil or save a friend.

I am pretty certain that Anakin goes to kill the Emperor and is turned; I would be very surprised if he ever intended to be a double agent in any way.

I have resurrected from the ashes! Remember me?

Anyway, Anakin definitely went after Palpy to finish him off, gets in a duel with Dooku, and then converts to the dark side. Oh ye.

I think now that he plays as a double-agent.
He said something about it in ROTJ, darn I can't remember anything!!
I thought it was something like, it's before he brings Luke to the Emperor, I can't go the the Light Side I must obey my master- thingy.
I think that he wanted to kill Sidi but he was overwhelmed by the Dark Side, for the revange of the death of his mother??, so he feared Sidi and he thought he couldn't be turned.

I think Vader was afraid of Palpy's power, which he will see in Epi. III. He knew that the Emperor would kill him if he rebelled, which did indeed happen. He just didn't care anymore.

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I don't rate this double agent thing, i think that he turns because of ob1's training methods, or Padme or his mother, or because of Palpatines blackmail. If Anakin had been a double agent, wouldn't have ob1 have told luke who his father was or at least of told him that he died trying to do the right thing. The way that Vader obeys the emperor leads me to believe that it was a combination of anakins lack of patience and palpatines power. I think anakin sees palpatine as a saviour, maul doesn't have the same respect for sidious that vader has for palpatine i.e vader bowing before palpatine. Palpatine saves anakin from dying and uses this to finally turn him.

Why does he than kill the Emperor? There is still good in him! Why didn't he do that earlyer?