Originally posted by Kaldin
Okay, the Bleach characters fighting are:
Ichibei (Bankai,)
Yamamoto (Bankai, both arms,)
Oetsu
Mugetsu Ichigo and Current Ichigo (turns out all of his power up to now has only been a fraction of his actual power that he now has)
Yhwach (Almighty is activated, and he has all of his power.)
Vs
Naruto (Yang seal.)
Sasuke (Yin seal and Rinnegan.)
Kakashi (DMS)
Might Gai.
Bleach has knowledge of Rinnegan (MS) abilities, but nothing else; Naruto has knowledge of some of Yama's attacks, and Mugetsu but nothing else.
To those who say Naruto is faster, then check this out.Ichibei has moved his hand so fast that he [B]bent space.
Ichibei's Senri can blast Yhwach 1000Ri (4000km) away and he crossed that same distance in a second.
Lightning moves 224000mph per second which is the equivalent of 3700 miles per minute (not a typo, the belief that it moves 3700 miles per second is incorrect.)
Lightning is Mach 180-300.
Ichibei's feet is about Mach 11000.
Ichigo also blitzed Lightning and crossed the entire Seireitei in a second.
Debate! 🙂 [/B]
Well, first off, I don't remember Ichibei ever "bending space".
Anyway, a few things.
Firstly, 1 RI = 2.44 miles
Sound = 768 mph = 12.8 mps
1,000 RI = 244,000 miles
244,000 mps = Ichibei's speed
Speed of Ichibe = 19,062.5 times faster than sound, or mach 19,062.
So, overall, Ichibei is about mach 19,000. Impressive.
Now, let's look at Naruto.
I could go all around, scaling character speeds from how the Jyuubi shot a biju bomb across several countries to reach the lightning country, or how massive the gods tree was, or how characters have been moving as fast as lightning since Killer Bee in first cloak mode, but it's easier just to give reaction speed.
The easiest way to do that is by using Jyuubidara and Jyuubito. Both of whom were casually able to react to, and even outspeed Minato's Hiraishin, which teleports his body as a mass of light, and at the speed of light. Meaning that their combat speed is FTL+. Kaguya is "on a whole other level" than those two, and Naruto and Sasuke both managed to combat her, and even physically dominate her at times.
Not saying the Naruto characters are FTL in movement speed, but they can definitely react to it, and work with their warping techniques in tandum with their ridiculous reaction speeds to make them the equivalent to MFTL, at least when fighting. I'd definitely say though that certain characters later on get FTL in movement speed, such as Gai in 8th gate and above.