LOL... what a great forum "VS these 4 xmen I chose."
Since colussus was recently updated to the 100 class strength range, and icemans is now the shiznite with the ability to freeze people from the inside out,
I really would bet those two alone could take the FF4...
And in the dude with the Havoc wolverine sig...
"The thing looks like cookie dough when he jumps from bridges"
"Why the Fantastic 4?"
Well Human Torch's supernova is much much more of a heat blast than Colossus is resistant to. Thing would be able to keep him busy and then some.
As for Ice-Man, Sue would be able to protect herself and Reed while they took him out. I agree with Vic, the X-Men in general aren't gonna be enough to take out the F4 at their best.
-AC
torch would take all moisture out of the air, iceman included then melt colossus, jean would be tough but suffering from extreme heat and trying to shield herself sue could take her out with force field attacks, nightcrawler'd probably run away at this point to tell the rest of the x men......... if he didn't then it'd just be a matter of time before they got him as he can't hurt the thing or mr fantasticand can't get close to torch without burning and sue'd be invisible so he wouldnt' know where she was
*Nightcrawler teleports into X-Men war room to find them and falls to ground*
N.C: They.....they beat me up and killed Ice-Man and Colossus.
*X-Men all get their gear together and stroll to the place where the fight is*
Cyclops: Alright. Who the Hell did this?
Human Torch: We did.
*X-Men whistle in unison and slowly back-up into the Blackbird, then fly off*
-AC
Although I hate to say it, but that bubble field is notoriously strong that Invisible Woman uses and has proven to negate Jean's influence both telepathic and telekinetic (i.e. shown when Avengers and FF found her in the incubator and when she went offensive, none of the members, except Invisible Woman could stop her).
Human Torch should not be considered to go supernova all the time, especially with his teammates around and Iceman is far more versatile than his former incarnations, but Human Torch may still have the advantage, unless Iceman pulls up an instant cell freeze a la Legion.
I think all X-Men members enlisted could take Mr. Fantastic and I'm leaning on Colossus on the durability factor against Thing. I would like to favor the X-Men, but that pesky Invisible Woman power somewhat turns the tables.
no four x-men could be a great match up for the FF...u need at least 7. Dont even bother mentioning how someone's powers have been increased, the Torch is presently the herald of Galactus and he has invisible woman type powers...he could probably trash the entire x-men alone. Just because Colossus has class 100 strength now, doesnt mean he would beat the Thing, it only means he would stand a chance, because in the past he wouldnt. Invisible Woman is obviously going to beat any x-person you throw at her...and which x-men can physically take mister fantastic? not to mention that he would have already made a plan to neutralize any of their powers.
I mean you've gotta assess roles here.
X-Men: Essentially the Marvel version of Team America: World Police. They come to help and settle things on a national scale really.
Fantastic Four: When shit goes up slack ally on a universal scale, the alarms go off in the Baxter Building, they grab their gear, hop in the jet and go off to work. Bearing in mind there is only 4 and they don't have the most intimidating powers.
-AC
dude... not intimidating? seriously?
mr fantastic... one of the greatest minds in marvel and an excellent leader, and a pretty decent power...
human torch... the guy is literally a human fireball... extremely powerful...
the thing... one of marvels heavy hitters...
sue... too powerful to even begin talking about...
the reason x-men is national is due to the fact that they face other mutants... thats their m.o, they deal with hate and bigotry on a daily basis...
colossus... currently extremely strong and more durable than thing imo...
iceman... powers potentially limitless, just like torch...
jean... extremely powerful psychic and telekinetic, but no sue...
nightcrawler... um... oh f*ck it...
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I mean you've gotta assess roles here.X-Men: Essentially the Marvel version of Team America: World Police. They come to help and settle things on a national scale really.
Fantastic Four: When shit goes up slack ally on a universal scale, the alarms go off in the Baxter Building, they grab their gear, hop in the jet and go off to work. Bearing in mind there is only 4 and they don't have the most intimidating powers.
-AC