FF4 VS these 4 xmen i chose

Originally posted by Tron
Like has been asked on this forum before, where and when has it actually said that Colossus has gotten a big power boost? And don't mention the Ultimate version.

The X-Men win. Jean Grey is on their team.

why the hell are so many people underestimating colossus, the guy is a good brawler, and i also imo (dare i say it) more intelligent than thing (in a tactical sense). hes more likely to use brains AND brawn than thing. he is stronger and probably quicker in his current form. i like thing but surely colossus has overtaken him...

I would like someone to show me where Colossus has come out on top against the caliber of enemies as the Thing...his resume is no where close. Class 100 or not, there r equally compelling arguments to say the modern Thing is portrayed as a class 100 as well.

first of all.. colossus has been dead for several years... second, thing is a more central character than colossus ever was, third, i have to go looking through my comics...

Don't believe Marvel Encyclopedia. They are wrong on many things. Colossus was class 90 before he died. Don't let their lies spread freely.

yup...

Even against the entire current x-men teams (uncanny, astonashing, new, main) the F4 would easily beat them.

thats alot of x-men...

"first of all.. colossus has been dead for several years... second, thing is a more central character than colossus ever was, third, i have to go looking through my comics..."

Colossus may be more tactical and whatever, but surely even he is smart enough to know that in a battle with Thing, the best thing he has going for him is the strength factor? Thing willingly (knowing he'll lose or not) fights The Hulk. I doubt he's gonna go into Colossus with anything but full steam, that's why I don't believe Colossus can handle him.

-AC

i agree with you saying colossus knows the best is his strength, but he is quicker than thing from whatr i've seen, and that is a definate advantage, in fact the one big thing going for colossus imo is that colossus won't underestimate the thing, i dunno if ben would do likewise...

most of the x-men are really weak.

and alot are really powerful... you could put together a decent team capable of beating the f4, but it'd be 7 or 8 of them...

I agree that Colossus is faster and not as prone to underestimation as Thing is.

However, Colossus dodges Thing and smacks him up a bit. It isn't gonna do much. Same for Colossus I guess. However when it comes down to brawling (coz it would) Thing would take him.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I agree that Colossus is faster and not as prone to underestimation as Thing is.

However, Colossus dodges Thing and smacks him up a bit. It isn't gonna do much. Same for Colossus I guess. However when it comes down to brawling (coz it would) Thing would take him.

-AC

i know what you mean, but colossus is no slouch when it comes to fighting, i mean, the x-men train daily, including countless sessions with wolverine (an accomplished martial artist), im sure colossus has picked up something in that time...

Thing is from The Bronx though isn't he?

Hahaha.

-AC

And Thing went to army.

So did Uncle Ben! 😱

This isn't relevant, but Uncle Ben is actually pretty cool. 🙂

i have no doubt that ben (either of em) is an excellent fighter...

but look at cyclops, he couldn't throw a punch when he started out, now he's a really good fighter (aikido and tae kwon do), its not much imo of a stretch to think colossus has done the same...

YANCY STREET GANG DON'T TAKE NO PUNK-ASS CHUMPS....REPRESENT!!

Even if Colossus is stronger and a little quicker, Thing's years of brawling
experience would win. Colossus definitely picked up skills, but
Thing's the best street brawler of all time. He's beaten Colossus quite
easily in the past. Some added strength won't suffice to close the gap.

THROW YO' SET IN THE AIR!!! YANCY STREET GANG ALL UP IN THE HIZZY!!!

It doesn't matter who would win in the fight between Colossus and Thing, because in the end, the X-men would dominate. Nightcrawler and Collossus are pretty well irrelevant here. It would take all of two seconds for Iceman to flash-freeze the FF or Phoenix to mind-wipe them. There isn't much to discuss here, the FF are simply outclassed by two omegas. Iceman and Phoenix are just plain beyond what the FF alone can handle...

Finally! Somebody was intelligent enough to point this argument out.