__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
this should get a few posts, but Spidey takes it he is superior in all physical ways, has precognitive sense and webs, Cap is fast for a human but moves in slow-mo compared to all-out-fighting-Spidey
I am gonna go against the grain here and say Cap.
My argument here is experience, patience, intel(Cap has intel on SM because Shield and the Avengers keep a file on him).
Here comes the insults and death threats...........
I have learned in this forum to never go against SM fans/lol
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I'm going with Captain America after a long fight on this one.
Even though Spiderman is physically dominant to Captain America just about every area....Captain America is a better hand to hand fighter.
They've fought before, even though it was a mere misunderstanding, and Captain America proved he is capable of hitting Spiderman.
Spidersense really won't play as big of a factor as in other Spidey fights because everything they do to eachother is going to right up front and personal, no sneak attacking, no double teaming. Spidey will see exactly what his Spider-sense would normally tell him.
The most important factor in this fight isn't Spiderman's physical ability, it's Captain America's knowledge of Spiderman. As LordFear eluded to, Cap has the information needed to take Spiderman out.
Oh I don't think it will be a problem for the good Cap to hit Spider-Man, not because he's that fast, just because he's a brilliant fighter.
The big problem is:
1. Is Captain America strong enough to knock down Spider-Man ? The answer is yes, but he needs A LOT of punching and kicking, and I just don't see that happening.
2. Can Captain America take a full hit of Spider-Man ? Of course not.
Captain can definitely kick Spider-Mans butt, but not in a straight fight.
__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Gender: Male Location: Huntington Beach, California
Spiderman is 165lbs.
If Captain America decked him full bore....he'd send Spidey flying (not far by any means) but he most certainly is capable of taking him off his feet with a punch.
Spidey, theoretically, could punch Captain America's head right off his shoulders.
Of course, when written in a comic, Spiderman will never get a punch off like that, and Captain America will land numerous blows like that....because Spiderman can easily take the abuse.
This isn't going to be won by fists, there's going to be an achilles heel that Captain America goes for....
Out of curiosity, what information on Spiderman is gonna help him
in an open fight? What knowledge can possibly counter-act Spidey's
speed, strength, agility, spider-sense....?
This would be a cool fight, but I don't see what "info" will be useful for
Cap to use. It's not like Spidey gets weak from kryptonite or something....
Oh boy... I hate to sound like some desperate fanboy (which I am by the way lol), but I don't think Spider-Man has some kind of weakness Captain America can use against him.
I said exactly the same thing in the SM vs Batman thread ("Batman will kick his ass, he will find SM's weakness and defeat him !" . Yeah right. Every time I asked which weakness we were talking about, I only heard the sound of silence...
Random fight : Spider-Man
Prep-time fight : probably Captain America, but Spider-Man can take it too.
__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Gender: Male Location: Huntington Beach, California
Every bit of information about Spiderman is going to help Captain America in a fight.
How fast he is. How strong he is. What his tendencies are. What his web is made out of and how it can be destroyed. Generally anything you could imagine.
If you knew Spiderman was prone to throwing upper cuts, wouldn't you find a way to adequately counter any uppercuts thrown at him?
Captain America isn't great because he "knows a lot about different people." He's great because using that information he is able to calculate counter measures to ensure victory.
To be honest, I think that the fight could go either way. Im pretty sure that Spiderman can take whatever Captain America gives him. I cant really say the same for CA though. We all know that writers wouldnt have Spidey hit Cap with half his power, or that would be the end of it for Cap. Captain is trained in many different forms of fighting and hes also an intellegent fighter and that works to his advantage. Know your opponent. Yet Spidey doesnt really have a style, and that works to his advantage as well. Both have great reflexes and should be able do dodge alot of blows. I think it depends on the stipulation on who wins. I say stalemate. Just my opinion though.
the trouble is, Spider-Man doesn't have a set "style" for fighting, he often goes moment by moment with the openings he sees and lets his spider-sense tell him when to duck or move....... in a straight up fight he will be able to dodge at least 90% of Cap's punches/kicks and, with his vastly superior reflexes, land at least 50% of his own attacks...... that's taking into account Cap's own reflexes..... if it were someone like Hawkeye i'd say Spidey would land 90-100% of his attacks
i don't see how any info on the webbing could help Cap here as he has no resources other than the shield to cut it and not enough strength to break it...... if he takes the time to try and cut the web with his shield edge he leaves himself open to a much faster and stronger opponent....... Spidey should win 9 out of 10 fights...... if not more
The intel that Cap has is enormous.
As Link stated everything you can think of from strength, web composition, tendencies while fighting, endurance, speed and agility.
Cap uses this info very well even in a inpromptu fight.
Furthermore I once read that during a debriefing by Fury to Cap and IM, Fury mentioned how he has files on every metahuman he is aware of on the planet and have contigency plans for them all. What you guys gotta remember is that Cap has access to Shield info and if Cap has read up on SM, then it's a good chance that Spidey is in a world of hurt!!!!
A little bit of intel goes a long way, my friends
Spidey has also stated that he has a contingincy plan for every hero he knows........ so they both have plans...... but i think Spidey will still win in an unplanned fight in the park with no prep
i still don't get how cap knowing about spidey's web composition can help him in the middle of a fight....... more likely it'll just let him realise he can't escape when he's webbed up
Jeepers Freaking Cripes...Okay...it's Official now...Cap has now become Omniscient...lol..damb..I thought Batman was the only Human level hero who had this God like ability ability.....
__________________ If knowledge is power..how come we have so many idiots in charge?!!
no I didn't say that intel alone could defeat SM. Merely pointed out that this dude(Cap) knowing how his web works and what's it made of would tell him not to get hit by it and also let him know that if his shield could cut the web if needed.
if it got to the point where Cap needed to cut the web then it'd be over for him..... and two weblines coming at you fast are hard to avoid.... especially if they only come from a few feet away........ the webbing can also be blanket sprayed to completely tangle him up...... it is really effective against anyone who isn't uber-strong
spider whould kill cap all jhe has to do is web him up and thats it spidey can lift 10 tons and cap can lift 1500lb cap can fight but spidey has a spidersence and is more agil;able than cap and is more dirable than cap
True, he's a very unpredictable fighter. Sometimes a brilliant fighter, sometimes clumsy, but most of the times unpredictable. He relies almost entirely on his instinct and his reflexes.
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