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Harbinger
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Hank Henshaw vs. Silver Surfer

Been done before, but with different conditions.

- Henshaw doesn't have his rings
- Fight takes place in a neutral location

Who wins?

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Surfer wins all day.

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I think Surfer takes it.
He could transmute Henshaw and prevent him from reconstituting himself.

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Surfer for the win

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Didn't Digimark say that unless proven otherwise, High Herald+ aren't simply transmutable?

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Without his rings Henshaw probably loses a small majority to Surfer.

Surfer 7/10.

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Originally posted by llagrok
Didn't Digimark say that unless proven otherwise, High Herald+ aren't simply transmutable?

I doubt Digi'd make a moronic, sweeping generalization like that.

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I doubt Digi'd make a moronic, sweeping generalization like that.

Someone's edgy.

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Someone's edgy.

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He is correct though, assuming no high herald levelers can be transmuted is quite an unsubstantial claim.

I understand why he would think that, however, there's still no proof to verify such a statement.

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He is correct though, assuming no high herald levelers can be transmuted is quite an unsubstantial claim.

I understand why he would think that, however, there's still no proof to verify such a statement.

There's no proof that suggests they can be transmuted either, all we know is that a lot of people can "resist" transmutation. Which is why I think we shouldn't just assume that heralds with matter manipulation can transmute every Tom, Dick and Harry who's trans+

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Originally posted by llagrok
There's no proof that suggests they can be transmuted either, all we know is that a lot of people can "resist" transmutation. Which is why I think we shouldn't just assume that heralds with matter manipulation can transmute every Tom, Dick and Harry who's trans+

Well, I do find it hard to believe that Silver Surfer could use transmutation in order to turn a top tier into a coffee table for example, but surely matter manipulation can be used against the character for other offensive purposes. For example, Surfer could transmute the armor, clothing, or weapon of a certain character to explode, encase, or even depower them.

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Speak for yourself.

Well, I was actually speaking for Llagrok and myself. stick out tongue

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Well, I do find it hard to believe that Silver Surfer could use transmutation in order to turn a top tier into a coffee table for example, but surely matter manipulation can be used against the character for other offensive purposes. For example, Surfer could transmute the armor, clothing, or weapon of a certain character to explode, encase, or even depower them.

I see it as "With sufficient power and proficiency in matter manipulation" you could potentially transmute anyone. Which sort of makes sense given the fact that Thanos did sort of remake everything/one so...

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Well, I do find it hard to believe that Silver Surfer could use transmutation in order to turn a top tier into a coffee table for example, but surely matter manipulation can be used against the character for other offensive purposes. For example, Surfer could transmute the armor, clothing, or weapon of a certain character to explode, encase, or even depower them.

I just don't believe that the Surfer would be able to transmute people that are trans +

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Surfer really doesn't use matter manipulation in that manner.

Transmuting someone into something else entirely would take tremendous concentration, and probably quite a bit of time (not a viable strategy against a speedster), if even possible at all. Especially, if that character is at or above his own power level (as Cyborg Supes is). Logically, it would seem much easier for Surfer to transmute an object such as Henshaw's cape, than it would be for him to manipulate Henshaw directly. However, there is the ability for Surfer to create K-Nite radiation which is not my favorite tactic, and it's not even guaranteed Surfer would have knowledge of said weakness. Nevertheless, I do believe Kryptonite negatively affects Henshaw.

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Surfer 10/10

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There's no proof that suggests they can be transmuted either

You're making a burden of proof fallacy. There is no evidence that Uncle Ben can be transmuted. Should we just give him the benefit of the doubt? erm

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