considering bob had to will himself not to regenerate back to life, thor didn't beat anyone. bob/sentry allowed/demanded that thor "beat him". he wanted to be destroyed. please read the bendis interview regarding it.
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The story shows that much, but interviews, especially the interviews of someone like Bendis who has a record of talking out of his ass, contradicting established facts, or out right lying, aren't something to hold on to as if they are absolutely fact.
If Bob doesn't want to die, who, in your honest opinion, can beat him regardless of whatever he wants?
actually no...if you read dark avengers everything was crystal clear. bendis developed sentry into a essentially unkillable character. morgan couldn't do it. his wife with marvel's lazer couldn't do it. molecule man couldn't do it. sentry couldn't even kill himself... via flying into the heart of the sun; and....heart of the sun>a single hit from thor's hammer.
none of this contradicts what was shown in siege; in fact it COMPLETELY supports what was shown in siege & reflects exactly what bendis said in the interview. if you're going to contest that sentry allowed/demanded that thor destroy him, that's pure fail.
who can beat him regardless of his wishes? living tribunal, eternity, beyonder, odin with prep, galactus with the un, reed richards with prep,
iron man with prep, doom with prep. too many to list.
Actually no...what? That the story doesn't show that Sentry didn't enable Thor to kill him which is what I said in my post to begin with?
Yes, Bendis developed Sentry into an ultra-polarizing character that a vast majority of people dislike. That being said, I'm not arguing with the things he has done on panel. What I am contesting, however, is the fact that you seem to be taking everything Bendis said in that interview at face value and writer interviews in general; they're nice to see the motive or explanation behind why things happened as they did, but they mean zilch in the end run when compared to what we see directly on panel. Bendis is the same guy who said "chaos magic doesn't exist" mind you, among a wealth of other contradictory claims and general BS that he's got a rep for. In that same interview he also goes on to say Sentry is a lying psychopath and that we shouldn't take everything he said as truth, either, but I guess people take what they want from the interviews.
Siege also had Sentry unable to handle being bombarded by a high herald with his meta/street level friends and a helicarrier before reverting to his powerless form. Keeping him dead is one thing, but slaying him for a forum win in another thing entirely.
no, just one thing...and it isn't at face value. it was clearly established during dark avengers. thor was able to destroy sentry because bob demanded it, wanted to die, & remain dead.
Which is what I'm saying. The comic shows that. Can't really argue the point. There's no need to bring up an interview with a writer, especially Bendis, to try and drive the point home.
Even so, there's something called no limits fallacy, which I feel Void/Sentry seems to get as far as the whole "unkillable unless he wants to die" thing goes. He showed he was beyond your conventional high herald using conventional means to slay him. I think it would be a misstep if we tried to read more into that, Molecule Man's interaction with Sentry notwithstanding.
The void had control at the end. Thor just hit it with so much power that he incinerated it. Bob may be holding back the boid from coming back or whatever but Thor took it down.
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you're contradicting yourself. void did not have "control at the end" if bob was holding it back & screaming demands at thor. bob was obviously more in control right before he died as he was able to will himself not to regenerate. void would have popped right back.
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