Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
That you'll say Sentry?Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying that's who you'll most likely say wins it.
No not really, but it depends on the Sentry version if it would be a fight or not.
I think I made pretty much clear that I personally and honestly believe that a stable Sentry would be a match for the Annihilators, so Lord Mar-Vell's trashing of Silver Surfer and Nova didn't impress me that much.
However, if it's Bendis out-of-character Sentry, then Lord Mar-Vell will have the upper hand, because of his cosmic awareness. He will find out what Sentry's weakness is, cast an illusion of the Void and Sentry fly away as fast as he can: BFR.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So tell me enzeru who can defeat "stable sentry" and what level you would put him trans, skyfather, elder god, cube entity, galactus level or abstract?
What does that matter?
Because of the inverted commas, you are already trolling, because you do not understand the basic concept of the Sentry character:
Imagine me coming along and trying to teach you about Superman. What would you think about that? It's basically the exact same thing right now.
You claimed yesterday, that you know more about Superman than everyone on Comicvine and here and so on combined. If you say so, it may be possible. Maybe you have an fetish for the character, I'm totally fine with that and I would probably respect your opinion in the end, if you consider yourself the Superman expert.
But the same applies for the Sentry and me. You claimed that you read everything with the Sentry in. I did that too, but I also made sure, that I basically know EVERYTHING about him, about every single appearance he ever had. I didn't only read about it, I thought about it and I know the character. All the people on Comicvine, CBR, Killermovies and so on don't know more about the Sentry than I do.
I am a Sentry fan, basically a fanboy, if you want to say so, but I'm still not a stupid, unrealistic person. I wouldn't put him above The One Above All and make him basically solo Marvel, DC and Imagine simoultaneously, but you're trying to make it look that way, simply because out of unexplainable grief.
Maybe you just hate me. I couldn't care less. Maybe you hate the entire Sentry character, because he was written very weird, from time to time. I could also care less. You lowball him, because you hate him and in the end, you don't know him. You never thought about the character, you never studied him. You maybe did it with Superman, but I did it with the Sentry and in the end, I know more about him then you do.
You can try to make a fool out of me for as long as you want, I will never give a damn, since you will always be acting out of biasm against the Sentry and his fans.
Once again. I'm not a raindrop - I don't worship Storm and put her above Galactus, because other raindrops believe she has the potential to become an Omega Level mutant.
I like the Sentry and I'm looking forward to the day of his return.
I acknowledge his powerlevel, which is vast, far beyond regular power houses, since that's how the character was created.
Jenkins decided that and he brought it into the Marvel Universe. He also brought in the mental problems of the character, which decreased Sentry's powerlevel.
I could show you sooo many proofs and try to convince you, that his powerlevel scales with his mental stability, yet you will never even bother to look at the scans and read the explanations, since your biasm will not disappear.
Comic readers who want to debate forum-fights have an opinion. They look at the names of the characters in the OP and they instantly know who they want to win. They enter the thread and write down their opinion and if someone tries to convince them otherwise, they deny simply everything and you're one of such people, narrow-minded and unable to accept new input. That is your problem.
My opinion is still that a stable Sentry ... where his power level would increase to a degree where he would be a planet buster, while vastly holding back - and also have so much more under his dispossal because of the matter manipulation, like: regeneration, healing, uber strenght, speed, durability, energy manipulation, emission and absorbtion, telepathy, empathy, teleportation, matter manipulation, invisibility, intangibility, super senses and so on ... would be a unstoppable character if written propperly, who would take down the Annihilators down, by taking out the weakest links without any real problems and then overpower Silver Surfer in the end too, because of his superior strenght and durability, which he showcased in his fights against Thor.
If you managed to read through all of this, then try to remember something: I already told you once, that you should simply let it be and that I will gladly admit everything you want, just to get rid of you, since you're acting like a child and talking to you it's like talking to a wall.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Could Sentry potentially kill all the Annihilators in 1 shot like Marvell almost did ?
I already asked you: What do you think?
Everyone has his opinion, and if you have doubts, why did you create the thread in the first place? For me to come in, to say that Sentry stomps and then to trollo-lolol around?
Lord Mar-vell all the way. If he *Voids out he can start to cause trouble, but Mar-vell still wins.
*Basing this on nothing but What If 200 written by Stan the Man himself, so it's just speculation. He saw the Void as surpassing any power on Earth (that included Thor by the way) and towards the end, he was seen tearing the planet apart (he'd grown to giant size too). The Watcher of that universe seemed to be next on his list.
Originally posted by zopzop
*Basing this on nothing but What If 200 written by Stan the Man himself, so it's just speculation. He saw the Void as surpassing any power on Earth (that included Thor by the way) and towards the end, he was seen tearing the planet apart (he'd grown to giant size too). The Watcher of that universe seemed to be next on his list.
The What If is what I often have in mind, when it comes to Sentry being in full control of his powers, where he was easily cutting through Thor.
But it's still not like it's something hugely impressive, since he already had good showings in canon comics, for example in the fight against Photon's, where they were releasing attacks on a planetary scale, while holding back. Basically something the Void was also doing in the end of the What If.
There are people who say that What If should be a canon What If, because Uatu was talking with the Watcher of the other reality and acknowledged basically everything what happened there and knew that something like that could have happened in his reality too, if Sentry was in control of his powers and still lost the control in the end.
Other What Ifs shown Sentry also demolish Thor, before getting his neck snapped and that was the exact same case in canon comics. During Siege and before.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Either answer what i asked(even though not aimed at you) or stfu b*tching.
Internet tough guy, huh?
Originally posted by Nihilist
Nah just fed up with your bs, either say how he wins or loses its not that hard a concept tp grasp.
Judging by your other posts you are an Internet-Tough-Guy. However.
There are two ways the fight can go:
1. Lord Mar-Vell is facing a Sentry, who is in a weak condition and has few doubts. He wouldn't go instantly down, but Lord Mar-Vell would have the upper hand for sure, since I see him having a greater energy output by will. He will bring the Sentry out of concept, harm him badly, but that would just call out the Void and then Lord Mar-Vell would have some serious problems.
I don't see him winning against someone with the ability to tank more damage then Lord Mar-Vell can dish out. Additionally to that there is the high level matter manipulation, powerful empathy and other gimmicks like that.
I see the Void one-shotting Nova and for Nova, he would probably need few more attacks, but Silver Surfer would go down aswell.
2. The other way around would be a sane Sentry, who was more then once capable of defeating the Void, so his powerlevel was even huger then the Voids. Additionally to that he has a much more versatile powerset then Lord Mar-Vell and probably at least the same energy output. They're both planet busters at least (even more without a doubt), but Mar-Vell does not have Sentry's versatility, which would come in a good fight at handy.
Mar-Vell had problems dealing with Thanos and his sheer strenght, while Sentry theoretically has the needed powers to deal with something like that, thanks to his matter manipulation.
I'm also not sure if Lord Mar-Vell's magic would help him a lot, since Dr. Strange already stated that Sentry was always too powerful for black magic / maybe even magic overall, since even classic Dr. Strange was written being unable to defeat the Void during the early years, so they always had to find a different way to get rid of him: mind-wiping.
Yeah, one-shotting Silver Surfer's board with a blast is impressive, but Sentry also destroyed a cosmic weapon. Terrax' axe. While Terrax is nowhere near Silver Surfer's powerlevel, does that automatically go for their cosmic weapons aswell? Is Silver Surfer's board less destroyable then Terrax' axe? I don't know that and would be glad if someone could clear me up.
However, in the end, I see there a difference, because Mar-Vell used an energy blast to destroy the board, while Sentry used sheer strenght to break the cosmic axe, and we all know that Marvel characters mostly tend to have greater energy levels, then strenght levels, so if all the cosmic weapons are equal, I would give that point to the Sentry.
In my explained opinion, Mar-Vell is in disadvantage in this one, but it would be a good fight, since they're both powerful. Sentry would get saved by his versatility. A high durability, nigh-invulnerability combined with regeneration and immortality, energy manipulation and telepathy would just come in handy. I know that Silver Surfer has these abilities too and judging by the feats, he stands above the Sentry without a doubt, but judging by the understandable power level, Sentry is above him. At least in my opinion.