two things: 1, if you take thanos vs tyrant as thanos facing an equal, and 2, remember that tyrant bodied like 8 heralds on two separate occasions, thanos could quite possible stomp most of these guys en masse
but that's being almost quan-level in generosity towards thanos
Those Heralds were weakened when Tyrant faced them. Let's not forget, Tyrant was leaching off of their power, so thats not a valid argument. What makes it even less valid is...Thanos was amped off of Tyrant power (the orb) when he faced him.
The heralds were weakened when they faced Tyrant the first time. However, the second time around, Terrax, Ganymede, Legacy, and Jack of Hearts were not weakened and still couldn't do much against him.
And there is no evidence that Thanos used the orb for anything other than a weapon for a single blast and to physically hit Tyrant with it. It's a moot point anyways since Thanos increased his strength even further after The End.
Thanos starts having problems at 5. He loses at either 6 or 7.
You aren't comparing terrax and others to the heralds who faced tyrant, are you? The only one notable in that group is terrax who just had an extended fight with morg. Thanos didn't do much against tyrant too and fighting teambusters don't make a character teambuster anyway. When did thanos amped his strength after The End? There is no showing of thanos fighting teams that indicates he gets past 3, thor alone has stalemated him many times.
Thanos has taken down the Avengers before, was beating the Guardian, and annihilated the Revengers. When has Thor ever stalemated Thanos on his own before?
Yes, they can be compared to the heralds who faced them before because 3 of them (Terrax, Jack, and Ganymede) had fought Tyrant the first time but after they had been drained. That wasn't the case the second time, yet they still had no chance against Tyrant.
While not clearly stated that his power was increased, Thanos stated that he gave himself "life assuring wishes" aside from his armada, and now he can perform feats of power that he hadn't shown before (blasting Galactus through his ship, withstanding and defeating the Maker). So if he didn't get a power increase then, he got it from somewhere.
All good and dandy but in Avengers there was only thor as a herald, GOTG has no heralds, revengers were alternate reality fodders. First cosmic war, Infinity gauntlet, Infinity Crusade.
Terrax is the only herald in that team, a low herald. Jack and Ganymede aren't heralds. As they shouldn't. In comparison Morg had upper hand on thanos in the last issue before.
Too vague to be an amp. Thanos always had that kind of energy blasts like matching In-betweener's blasts or breaking Lord Order and Master chaos' cage of In-betweener in thanos quest. She oneshotted him in the prior issue. The only reason he withstood her blasts was because he was gradually shutting down her mind which was already lobotomized by a below emma frost level telepath in Oracle. Not enough. Thanos hasn't had an amp in power since Thanos Quest.
And Thanos has tanked attacks from Thor and Silver Surfer. Heralds don't cause him problems.
The only stalemate was when Thor had warrior madness and the power gem. In the Infinity Gauntlet and Crusade, they only went one on one after Thanos had already taken out other people and even then it was only for a panel or two.
Morg knocked Thanos down and was about to use his axe before Ganymede jumped in. Big deal.
My point about the team that faced Tyrant is it didn't matter if they were weakened or not. They had no chance against him.
No, he hasn't always had that kind of energy. He said he would do his best to match the In-Betweener's output, but Thanos is not in his weight class at all. If he always had that kind of power, then his blasts against both Odin and Tyrant should have had a lot more effect than they did (which was virtually none).
Regardless of the reason, he still survived a blast from a near cosmic cube-level being.
But he has shown far more power now than he ever had back then.
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