Originally posted by Lana
Christ, you need everything spelled to the letter, don't you!You said millions. I pointed out that a million yen is only about $10,000. How on earth does that mean I said you only said "a million"? It doesn't!
And where is your source for that claim? Random claims without sources to back them up can't be taken seriously.
I find wikipedia reliable, where its maintaine by people who respect canon policy , you really think making a ff game is cheap? i dont think so
Originally posted by Kadesh
I find wikipedia reliable, where its maintaine by people who [B]respect canon policy , you really think making a ff game is cheap? i dont think so [/B]
Wikipedia is not a respectable source because people can edit it to say what they want. Actual linked sources are what's needed.
And where did I say it was cheap? Nowhere. Simply pointing out the mistakes in what you're saying.
Originally posted by Lananice excuse, so i guess everything must be bull shit in there is it? By the way, why would there be a motive for some body to type bull shit there? About the cost to make one FF title?
Wikipedia is not a respectable source because people can edit it to say what they want. Actual linked sources are what's needed.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Wikipedia is hardly the most reliable source, considering that anyone with a keyboard can edit it.Oh, and giving me the same sources as before does not prove your opinion. Where's my camera footage from Japan?
Wheres my proof of they making a remake? i thought i told you to shut up if you dont have any proof, go find me a "reliable" source and state it
Originally posted by Kadesh
nice excuse, so i guess everything must be bull shit in there is it? By the way, why would there be a motive for some body to type bull shit there? About the cost to make one FF title?
Who am I to say why people act like idiots? Can't really deny the fact that it happens all the time, can you?
Try using wikipedia as a source in a real debate or a research paper and watch yourself get laughed out of it or fail. It's not a respectable source, end of.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Wheres my proof of they making a remake? i thought i told you to shut up if you dont have any proof, go fine me a "reliable" source and state it
I think you have no right to tell others to shut up.
Originally posted by LanaUm it has been used before and been proven in the SWV forums to be canonical and no contradictions as well as nothing being made up, as you were saying? And they do state that where did what they type come from, so i think you fail, want an example? Read the NEGTC and compare it to wiki, they ripped it off word for word
Who am I to say why people act like idiots? Can't really deny the fact that it happens all the time, can you?Try using wikipedia as a source in a real debate or a research paper and watch yourself get laughed out of it or fail. It's not a respectable source, end of.
Originally posted by Lana
I think you have no right to tell others to shut up.
By right he should, because he has failed to provide any evidence of a remake, and he has nothing to say does he?
Originally posted by General KalieroLearn to read, i just gave you the evidence earlier, and right now you are showing Denial that there will not be a remake at this time. Again i ask, prove to me that they are making a remake, prove it
Nice manners. You're hardly one to be splitting hairs about reliable sources, and I still don't have any proof from you.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Um it has been used before and been proven in the SWV forums to be canonical and no contradictions as well as nothing being made up, as you were saying? And they do state that where did what they type come from, so i think you fail, want an example? Read the NEGTC and compare it to wiki, they ripped it off [B]word for wordBy right he should, because he has failed to provide any evidence of a remake, and he has nothing to say does he? [/B]
I don't think most people in the SWV forum have any idea what is actually canon in the SW universe.
Nor have you really spend much time looking up stuff on wiki if you've never come across anything that was wrong/made up/completely pointless.
And I'm well aware that most things on wiki link to the info sources. So why not find the ones for the claims you're making?
And no, he shouldn't, since what he is saying in that they will likely make a remake is his opinion. You however are making claims with no sources, and as you're arguing your stance as fact, you are the one who needs to supply proof.
Learn to think, those quotes do not constitute evidence of anything, seeing as they are unsourced, and people have been known to lie.
Also, as I said before, no one who doesn't work within SE can prove that they are making a remake. I never said they definitely were, either. I merely said that it's possible, and likely, based on past company events and statements, business tactics, and common sense.
EDIT @General kaliero. i posted this before i read your last post
Originally posted by LanaYou are wrong, try debating in the SWV forums and you would get owned. You completely know nothing of what canon is in the SW universe. And by the way, the debators there are far greater than the ones here, Not knowing canon? im sorry but we got the NEC, we got NEGTC ETTC, Novels, Movies, Sourcebooks etc... so dont attempt to say we dont know whats canon
I don't think most people in the SWV forum have any idea what is actually canon in the SW universe.
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Originally posted by LanaActually i have, that claiming plo koon is a practitionar of djem so which is completely false, you fail
ave you really spend much time looking up stuff on wiki if you've never come across anything that was wrong/made up/completely pointless.
Originally posted by LanaWhich is what im trying to do now
And I'm well aware that most things on wiki link to the info sources. So why not find the ones for the claims you're making?
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Originally posted by LanaAre you blind? i just posted what has been stated in ign that they said that they are not making one now. He is claiming that they are and will be making a remake, which he has failed to prove, i dont have t prove that they are not, because simply There is no proof that they are, understand?
And no, he shouldn't, since what he is saying in that they will likely make a remake is his opinion. You however are making claims with no sources, and as you're arguing your stance as fact, you are the one who needs to supply proof.
Originally posted by General Kalierohow many times do i have to say that i did not deny a posibility? i never denied that, iwas saying that they are not making one now that is, and sorry if i got a little bit harsh earlier, its kinda late here so i tend to snap easily
Learn to think, those quotes do not constitute evidence of anything, seeing as they are unsourced, and people have been known to lie.Also, as I said before, no one who doesn't work within SE can prove that they are making a remake. I never said they definitely were, either. I merely said that it's possible, and likely, based on past company events and statements, business tactics, and common sense.
Yes, you did deny the possibility with your numerous quoted statements, accepting them as fact that a remake was not in any way in production.
Also, you really should include a source with any quotes you post, so that people can check and make sure you didn't change anything. Such as your info about the cost of FFXII.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII#Development
You must have changed it in your post, because Wikipedia is a completely reliable source.
Originally posted by Kadesh
EDIT @General kaliero. i posted this before i read your last postYou are wrong, try debating in the SWV forums and you would get owned. You completely know nothing of what canon is in the SW universe. And by the way, the debators there are far greater than the ones here, Not knowing canon? im sorry but we got the NEC, we got NEGTC ETTC, Novels, Movies, Sourcebooks etc... so dont attempt to say we dont know whats canon
Nor h Actually i have, that claiming plo koon is a practitionar of djem so which is completely false, you fail
Which is what im trying to do nowAre you blind? i just posted what has been stated in ign that they said that they are not making one now. He is claiming that they are and will be making a remake, which he has failed to prove, i dont have t prove that they are not, because simply There is no proof that they are, understand?
Pffft. You're proving me right right there about not knowing what's canon in SW. Novels are not canon, comics are not canon, games are not canon. The movies and the movies alone are canon in SW. The rest is EU.
Well, then why are you acting like the editing of wiki never happens?
Maybe you should have done so from the start?
And no, I'm sorry, but you are the blind one here. What Kaliero is saying is that he thinks they will make a remake and that it would be stupid not to. He is not stating this as fact, but rather an opinion based on previous SE decisions and fan reactions. You are stating as a fact that there will not be a remake.
Originally posted by General Kalieroi was wrong in some parts about the possibility thing, i did contradict myself twice, first i said there was, then didnt then now i said there was again, I was trying to state that they are not making one now, sry if i got that mixed up
Yes, you did deny the possibilty with your numerous quoted statements, accepting them as fact that a remake was not in any way in production.Also, you really should include a source with any quotes you post, so that people can check and make sure you didn't change anything. Such as your info about the cost of FFXII.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII#Development
You must have changed it in your post, because Wikipedia is a completely reliable source.
Huh? i didnt say wikipedia is unrealible
Originally posted by LanaUm novels are, lucasarts approved them and they got the LFL stamps which indicates that they did really take place in the star wars universe , movies are classified as "higher canon" and we do use EU in debates, try again
Pffft. You're proving me right right there about not knowing what's canon in SW. Novels are not canon, comics are not canon, games are not canon. The movies and the movies alone are canon in SW. The rest is EU.
Originally posted by Lanageneral just said it was reliable, read it againMaybe you should have done so from the start?
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Originally posted by LanaThats because i took what they said about it for real, which has yet to be seen
And no, I'm sorry, but you are the blind one here. What Kaliero is saying is that he thinks they will make a remake and that it would be stupid not to. He is not stating this as fact, but rather an opinion based on previous SE decisions and fan reactions. You are stating as a fact that there will not be a remake.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Um novels are, lucasarts approved them and they got the LFL stamps which indicates that they did really take place in the star wars universe , movies are classified as "higher canon" and we do use EU in debates, try again
If EU is not canon, then tell me, how the hell did Darth vader get known through out the galaxy when he only appeard like what 3 mins in the film?general just said it was reliable, read it again
Thats because i took what they said about it for real, which has yet to be seen
Lucas approving them doesn't mean shit. They're not considered canon.
And, um, you don't seem to catch sarcasm very well. Kaliero is actually proving WRONG your claim that wiki is reliable.
And you can't take everything at face value. Just because they said one thing doesn't mean that's precisely what they meant.
Originally posted by LanaUm lucasarts and LFL approved them canon, try again
Lucas approving them doesn't mean shit. They're not considered canon.
Originally posted by LanaNo i dont, and was he even showing sarcasm a all
And, um, you don't seem to catch sarcasm very well. Kaliero is actually proving WRONG your claim that wiki is reliable.
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Originally posted by LanaThe same can be said if the mentioned that the would make a remake, point moot
And you can't take everything at face value. Just because they said one thing doesn't mean that's precisely what they meant.
sorry for double post, but did you know that lucas works closely with the authors? That Leland chee makes statements time and again about the EU stating that thay ARE canon? That GL is well aware of the EU as long as it doesnt contradict the movies?
That G canon is reffered to george lucas movies
and that C-canon means the EU? you fail again
By the way, lets stay on topic, we got the whole thing derailed, i agree that there is a possibility of a remake, while there is no proof of one being made currently