Well, as Mider believes that either can take on the AD, I decided to make this a thread. I bet some people will beg to differ, therefore creating a great debate.
My grand mother animating the destroyer could kill Thor, Doomsday, Gog, Superman, and Thanos combined in under a minute if the fight took place in an enclosed environment with unbreachable walls, ie, the Destroyer doesnt have to constantly chase after the flailing bodies to "smite" them again.
My dachsund is animating Destroyer. Which gives the Destroyer the unhealthy desire to run around and play with people. He will also probably want to jump on people.
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what makes anyone believe the disintegration beam is greater than an imperiex level blast, or the omega effect? imperiex at least is above the skyfather level. if it's not beyond them (and i think it is at least a debateable point), destroyer ain't doin' jack to dd. the disintegration beam also takes a long while to warm up and dd is suposed to be as fast or faster than superman. may not be that easy to hit with it considering he only uses on opponents who have been stunned, and stunning dd is not easy, even for the destroyer. that said, i'm not saying dd could take out the destroyer one on one (unless he was able to adapt somehow to the point where he could do damage to it, always a possibility according to darkseid who claimed he could adapt to defeat ANY foe), but it HAS been done. in 1on1 fights, hercules did well in battle against it. bengy battled and did VERY well (was kicking its ass, actually) against the destroyer before galactus withdrew his lifeforce from it. thor ko'd it when it's host became only momentarily distracted, and the odinpower proved in thor to be enough to destroy it.
of course with gog along with him, after they realize they may not be able to physically injure the destroyer, and if they can't find some way to affect the host, gog would simply use his hypertime powers to go back to see who animates it and kill the animator, so i certainly hope it's not a dog or a gramma. better be someone able to withstand a superman level villain.
on a difefrent point -- i'm sensing lots of hate for mider lately. and though his lack of punctuation CAN be annoying, and occasionally he doesn't make . . . PERFECT arguments, he DOES stand on his own and refuses to back down no matter how many are against him. i actually like him (though we've gone a few rounds in the past . . .) and (at least in this case) i don't think his thinking is THAT far over-the-top.
If he's animated by all the gods, he grows to 5000' and steps on them. But he is animated by odin. And I seriously do not remember making this thread at all.
To be honest, that whole mess was nothing but assumption and bunk. Imperiex is a skyfather at BEST. He's not that powerful. Just packs a lot of technology. Also, Doomsday is a walking plot device. The whole "he can't be disintegrated again" argument holds no merit here. Also, Hypertime probably doesn't work in the Marvel Universe, because the concept doesn't exist there, so trying to use Hypertime in a battle with a Marvel character has no fruition here.
Also, Mider is a tool. Yeah, he doesn't back down, but that's because he's got the mentality of "I'm right, and you're not, so I'm gonna blather on lies that I can't back up constantly to try and prove my point." It downright pisses people off, and makes no sense to anyone. Hell, I had to start an entire thread breaking down Slade's powers just to show he's not what Mider has made him out to be! Hell, the guy thinks Gog is a skyfather! To be honest, you can respect him all day for his attitude, but you'll be sitting in a lonely waiting room for everyone to join you.
Destroyer armor wins 10/10, and kills the walking plot devices with relative ease.
Cosigned completely...Both on this battle and people hatin Mider. I was one of the few who gave Doomsday ANY chance in the original "DD vs The Destroyer" thread. I saw absolutely valid points, much like those above, go completely ignored or rebutted with nonsense simply because people refused to revisit their original opinion on the fight. I've personally changed my opinion about a fight 5 or 6 times after reading others here bring up points I didn't take into consideration. I personally think Destroyer would win a slight majority, depending on who's animating it.
On the subject of hatin Mider...To jump on a bandwagon is the 3rd most predictable of all human responses. The original cause of people disliking him was the lack of punctuation in his posts. He seems to have made an concerted effort to correct it though. I've started to notice periods and commas where previously there were none. I can remember sighing before responding to a couple of his posts, but I like his ferocity in arguing his point. His only flaw as far I'm concerned is his undying loyalty to certain characters regardless of who their pitted against. But he's far from the only one on the forum afflicted with such a disease.
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why do you bother making this debate this isnt a debate i mean i could bring up any such point and youd shoot it down with whatever so why bother debating on it.
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bunk? first, dd's REALLY fast and the disintegration beam takes a long time to warm up. and the beam can't be above odin level -- it was MADE by odin and imbued with his power. what exactly has the beam done that mjollnir hasn't? both destroyed parts of a celetsial and that's it. i've never really understood why all the respect for it in the first place. that said, it IS a bit of speculation regarding its effects on dd. personally though, dd's handled the omega effect just fine, and featwise (and origin wise possibly) the omega effect is equal or greater than the disintegration beam.
second, thread starter never said this was in the marvel universe. doesn't make sense to do that. why have someone IN a battle, if their powers won't work? seems a bit silly. we assume in these fights all powers work and that the site is neutral -- unless otherwise specified for whatever reason. gog's powers would work just fine.
as regards mider -- i'm certainly not his lawyer and he's always fighting his own battles and doesn't need me, but i just dislike a bunch of members hacking on another one. i'm guessing you're a bit older ts -- maybe or maybe not a old as me -- but i'm also guessing mider is just a kid. what's the point of flaming him? why bother making a thread to discredit his theories? most will know when he's spouting off, most ignore him. in that i'm FAR from alone. it's not about respecting HIM, it's about respecting (no matter how wrong or right) someone else's opinons so long as they are not flaming or insulting. in my experience, he usually doesn't do that. so know he's wrong, and go on. i don't see the point in doing more.
ps-i sense a little . . . hostility in your post? (or maybe i'm being oversensitive?) anyway, you did know you misunderstood my post about 'over-reacting' in that other thread . . . right? i posted after your response. we've had some good discussions recently. hopefully we'll have loads more in the future.
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maybe, but his power was enough to destroy it while desak was in it. odin could likely have easily driven out whatever spirit was animating it as well so he certainly was powerful enough to have stopped it.
i still think it's an interesting thread. sure the destroyer could win (assuming for the moment gog doesn't use his powers to find the spirit in it) but i still think it would be a cool fight. the ultimate version of dd vs the destroyer would be AWESOME, imo . . .
One problem. Unless whoever animates the Destroyer is a moron and tries to fight DD fist to fist, then Doomsday is going down quick. He can't fly, but the Destroyer can. He's just gonna rain down hell from above and turn Doomsday into this: (please log in to view the image)
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Apr 22nd, 2006 05:37 AM
better be someone able to withstand a superman level villain. 
first, dd's REALLY fast and the disintegration beam takes a long time to warm up. and the beam can't be above odin level -- it was MADE by odin and imbued with his power. what exactly has the beam done that mjollnir hasn't? both destroyed parts of a celetsial and that's it. i've never really understood why all the respect for it in the first place. that said, it IS a bit of speculation regarding its effects on dd. personally though, dd's handled the omega effect just fine, and featwise (and origin wise possibly) the omega effect is equal or greater than the disintegration beam.
