How does this go? Can Marvel stop Doomsday before he makes it too Metropolis? Will he be able to keep him down or even slow him down? Will Marvel die or will he survive? Can he kills DOS Doomsday?
I think Billy has a higher durability than Superman on average and maybe able to fight him without dieing. I don't think Marvel can stop him from getting to metropolis, but once they go toe to toe Billy will put him down. Didn't Marvel once fight inside out?
Well, we are talking about DoS Doomsday here, so this was back before Superman could pull off feats like that, so it's really moot at least for this fight.
Superman can't alter weather patterns and create storms through magical means, can't charge his fists with magical energy, doesn't possess a form of clairvoyance and have the ability to instantly know various facts of a wide variety of subjects, can't summon magical lightning bolts, can't alter his physical appearance though a sheer act of will, didn't become successor and keeper to the nexus of most of Earth's magical power, etc, etc. etc.
The fact of the matter is that Superman and DC comics alike considers Cap to be his equal and this has been shown, alluded, or stated through out the decades through virtually almost all of their encounters.
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Honestly, I don't see them being equals. Captain Marvel only has one legit win over Superman that I’ve seen. The “fight” in JLA/JSA: VIRTUE & VICE could be considered a win, but would be overly generous to give to Captain Marvel(since we don’t even see the fight beyond Captain Marvel sneak-attacking Superman, and it’s Power Girl and Doctor Fate we see holding Superman, not Captain Marvel). And the one win that Captain Marvel has without argument is because of a sucker-punch.
Superman on the other hand has shown the upper-hand against Captain Marvel even though Superman had been worn from fighting entire teams of powerful heroes, had some solar energy drained, Captain Marvel started the fight off with a sneak-attack, and Superman was effected by Kryptonite to an unknown degree. Even with all those factors, Superman still had the upper-hand in hand-to-hand combat and also caught Captain Marvel’s punch, showing superior strength. By comparison, when Captain Marvel caught Superman’s punch, he had to Zeus-amp, something that is only a temporary boost and weakens his other attributes.
Then Superman beat the absolute shit out of Captain Marvel during the ECLIPSO thing, when mind-controlled beat the shit out of Captain Marvel in a JSA issue(though this time Superman did the sucker punching), and Superman’s done better against Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter than Captain Marvel did.
And this is if we don’t count a potential future Superman was shown where he becomes the world’s dictator, after he’s already defeated a pretty impressive team, defeats a fresh Captain Marvel who said he’s going to stop Superman or die trying.
He can say anything he wants. Just because he said it, doesn't make it true. I can name plenty of things characters have said that's clearly not true. Besides which, Superman's also known for being modest.
Until someone shows me some durability feats from CM that match Superman's best durability feats, I don't think you'll be able to convince me he's more durable. Certainly not durable enough to take on this Doomsday (who himself would have beaten Superman one on one probably 8/10)
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