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Trion Juggernaut Vs Silver Age Mangog

Who wins?

Feb 3rd, 2013 10:41 AM

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Who wins?

Trion and this is Spite

Feb 3rd, 2013 04:56 PM

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Why does Trion win and why is it spite?

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Why does Trion win and why is it spite?

Because SA Mangog didn't show vast strength (say beyond 2x that of Thor). Thus he couldn't even hurt classic Juggs.

Now Trion Juggs was punching through dimension and would wreck Mangog like a toy.

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Because SA Mangog didn't show vast strength (say beyond 2x that of Thor). Thus he couldn't even hurt classic Juggs.

Now Trion Juggs was punching through dimension and would wreck Mangog like a toy.

Mangog was able to overpower with his tail alone and was able to punch back Mjolnir. He's a lot stronger than Top Tier, more than enough to hurt and beat up classic Juggernaut.

How is that a reason? I don't care if he was punching through dimensional barriers, that isn't even necessarily above Herald level strength as we've seen.

You know what, I'm going to re-read the Trion story. Pretty sure I'm forgetting some relevant information. Bet it will be enlightening.

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[ I'm going to re-read the Trion story. Pretty sure I'm forgetting some relevant information. Bet it will be enlightening.

yeah go and do that, and dont make a fool out of your self again...

Feb 3rd, 2013 08:37 PM

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Still waiting:

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Why does Trion win and why is it spite?

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Mangog was able to overpower with his tail alone and was able to punch back Mjolnir. He's a lot stronger than Top Tier, more than enough to hurt and beat up classic Juggernaut.

How is that a reason? I don't care if he was punching through dimensional barriers, that isn't even necessarily above Herald level strength as we've seen.

You know what, I'm going to re-read the Trion story. Pretty sure I'm forgetting some relevant information. Bet it will be enlightening.

If his tail is .000001% more than Thor's strength then it will overpower Thor
I gave a generous 2x Thor's strength.

Hitting Mjolnir back requires equal strength of Thor (not more) and INCREDIBLE durability (which is why Mangog is formidable). I think in the story Thor said that he hit Mjolnir back at the strength of his own (Thor's) right arm or something like that.

Punching through dimensional barriers (with strength alone) is above Herald level strength by far.
It would take a plot device for a herald to do that (things outside of strength).

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Feb 3rd, 2013 11:21 PM

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I always thought the whole punching through dimensional barrier thing a feat of his magical property. Like Dr. Strange able to open dimensional barrier using his magic...?? I could be wrong but i never really consider it a strength feat. It just wouldn't make sense (lol...even in comic standard).

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Meh, I've never understood how feats like that can be quantified.

"Trion punched a hole through several dimensional walls!1!!111!" Okay, well exactly how much strength is required to do that? Because I sure as hell don't have a clue.

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yeah go and do that, and dont make a fool out of your self again...

lol. You let H1 of all people respond for you, then basically step out from behind to say "YEAH!" and Rage is making a fool of himself. Gotcha bro.

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Didn't Trion Juggs gets wrassled by an Octopus, and was beaten by Xavier and Cain's mind?

also, lol at H1's calculalations.

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Mangog is more powerful than Cyttorak himself.

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Mangog is more powerful than Cyttorak himself.

......LOL

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Mangog is more powerful than Cyttorak himself.

How so?

Feb 4th, 2013 03:34 AM

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Mangog is more powerful than Cyttorak himself.

Not in Cyttorak's realm he isn't. Outside it, I can see a case being made for that.

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Mangog is more powerful than Cyttorak himself.

Mangog is low-end Skyfather level. Cyttorak is about Elder God level...

Trion Juggs wins.

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SA Mangog is a high skyfather.

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Feb 4th, 2013 03:52 AM

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Meh, I've never understood how feats like that can be quantified.

"Trion punched a hole through several dimensional walls!1!!111!" Okay, well exactly how much strength is required to do that? Because I sure as hell don't have a clue.

agreed! it's a great feat...it's just not a strength feat, imo.

Feb 4th, 2013 04:04 AM