Ulik is out of thing's league. Able to hang with Thor, even without his metal pounders, while Thor keeps the hammer.
Im pretty sure he might haven beaten Thor at one point
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thing would hang for a while but the pounders are a def edge here. without i would likely take ben. with i think it's enough edge to take ulik. this isn't a mismatch at all.
Thor's older stories had battles that sometimes went on for multiple books. And, with opponents who just would not go down, (before being sissified for the sake of marketing other characters), Thor did not hold back. Ulik was one of those opponents.
"To the Death", says Thor. (please log in to view the image)
Thier arms clash, but Thor is the one that got hurt. (please log in to view the image)
Thor states that Ulik's strength is equal to his own. (please log in to view the image)
Ulik beats the hammer out of Thor's hand. (please log in to view the image)
sadly, the point still stands. Thor is undeniably above the thing and ulik can hang with and even push Thor. Ben loses, but not horribly. As a matter of fact, Ulik probably salutes Ben for making it such a good fight and standing his ground even when he knew he was going to lose.
Classic Thor was highly inconsistent. He was weak as shit at times. Ulik was stated by Marvel editors to be around Things level. Thing with pounders would have given Thor one hell of a fight too.
Currently, Thor has one shot Ulik and straight embarrassed him. There levels are not even remotely close.
most of his early fights with Thor he did not have the pounders. He was either barehanded, or he had a generic metal club.
Ulik has a large number of good showings against Thor and a potential win, whetr Odin had to come in and save Thor by banishing Ulik.
Regardless if what might have been said, one time, by "Marvel", (whoever THAT is referring to), about Ulik only being as strong as Thing, there are many, many showings of Ulik taking Thor'attacks without flinching or even slowing down, while hurting Thor, putting him on the ground, with on-panel statements placing Ulik at Thor's level.
"Inconsistant"? Hell yeah.
"Deppowered" in more recent appearances? Of course. Just like ALL the old heavy-hitters.
But these r the facts-
1. Ben never has and never would b able to go against Thor, take the same punishment and give the same punishment as Ulik has.
2. Ulik has far too many good showings against Thor, numbers-wise, to b ignored.
3. Damage done, damage received, durability, strength and suppoting panels and comments, place Ulik in a high tier. Even with losses to Thor and recent low showings. Ulik has the numbers in his favor.
Ben is one of my favorite characters and I have many posts in this forum, where i complain about how he has never been allowed to advance in power or showings. I'm just dealing with the facts.