Yoda versus Dumbledore (the Force versus Hogwarts magic)

Started by Rogue Jedi48 pages

Yoda versus Dumbledore (the Force versus Hogwarts magic)

Who wins? No lightsaber involved, only ones knowledge of the force and magical spells.

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I personally would choose Dumbledore, because there's a lot more you can do with magic than with the Force.

How so? Yoda can do may things with the force, not just telekinesis.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How so? Yoda can do may things with the force, not just telekinesis.
I'm well aware of that, but there's still almost infinite things available with magic, especially to someone like Dumbledore.

I say Master Yoda takes this fight. With age comes experience, and Yoda is 900 years old.

Dumbledore may be "the greatest wizard in the world", but he still just the headmaster of a school. He doesnt even teach, actually. The only "lessons" that he ever gave were cryptic and riddled and meant for Harry Potter.

Yoda is, basically, a monk who does nothing but eat sleep, and shit The Force. He has no other duties but to train Jedi.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I'm well aware of that, but there's still almost infinite things available with magic, especially to someone like Dumbledore.
and what happens when Dumbledore loses his wand?

I'm just giving my analysis, man.

I know, and I am going with it....so?

Well Yoda vs. Dumbledor I can't really say.

But as far as the force is concerned, the force has brought people to life, killed people, made me people invisible, and destroyed entire planets.

It has also made entire planets invisible, and has ripped holes in the space time continuum itself and has been used to manipulate black holes.

And you don't need a wand or some incantation to do it any of it 😉

I feel that the magical world of JK Rawling has created is grossly underpowered. Considering all of the "stuff" that is covered in the magical world, a person similar to Orochimaru would have to exist and Voldemort doesn't really cut it for me.

If someone were TRULY able to become great at magic in Rawling's Harry Potter universe, then the possibilities are endless.

As I read her stories, I thought that Voldemort was very weak considering the reputation he was supposed to have.

I could go on for pages about things that could be done by a truly powerful wizard/witch...

Still, it is no contest.

Dumbledore by a ridiculous landslide.

Both have powers to rival each other, but the Force is based on physical properties. Magic can do anything really.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk

But as far as the force is concerned, the force has brought people to life, killed people, made me people invisible,

Horcruxes prevent death, Avada Kedavra kills people and spells/Invisibility cloak makes people invisible. Also, pretty sure the Force cant actually make people invisible, it would just distort the observer into thinking they couldnt see anyone.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
and destroyed entire planets.

It has also made entire planets invisible, and has ripped holes in the space time continuum itself and has been used to manipulate black holes.

Cant argue any of these because they're just getting out of proportion in both universes.

Theres too much variety and endless possibilities with magic compared to the force:

Magic can freeze time (Order of the Phoenix), transform the caster into an animal (Prisoner of Azkaban), conjure objects/animals (Chamber of Secrets), bring inanimate objects to life (Order of the Phoenix), curse or hex a target, allow them to fly (Voldemort), send the caster back in time (Prisoner of Azkaban), teleport the caster etc.

The force simply cant do any of that because its outside the physical limitations that the force is dependent on.

Dumbledore would win.

If you guys are gonna include Hocruxes and invisibility cloaks, then Yoda will have a lightsaber.

See, but there are no invisibility cloaks, because you said there weren't going to be any.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Who wins? No lightsaber involved, only ones knowledge of the force and magical spells.
Don't go changing the conditions of the fight.

Yeah, it's pretty obviously Dumbledore.

Honestly RJ an invisibly cloak will barely mean a difference.

Jedi don't need there eyes to see.

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Originally posted by Impediment
I say Master Yoda takes this fight. With age comes experience, and Yoda is 900 years old.

Dumbledore may be "the greatest wizard in the world", but he still just the headmaster of a school. He doesnt even teach, actually. The only "lessons" that he ever gave were cryptic and riddled and meant for Harry Potter.

Yoda is, basically, a monk who does nothing but eat sleep, and shit The Force. He has no other duties but to train Jedi.

Yoda wins.

Why?

Cause LOTR suck.

Originally posted by Strangelove
See, but there are no invisibility cloaks, because you said there weren't going to be any. Don't go changing the conditions of the fight.

Yeah, it's pretty obviously Dumbledore.

hey, I am only adding that because others are bringing invisibility cloaks into the mix. So, from here on out, ONLY MAGICAL SPELLS AND THE FORCE.

I said:

Originally posted by Outbound
spells/Invisibility cloak

So even with no cloak, there are still spells. Also, whats to stop him from conjuring up a cloak, its still using a spell. Yoda cant just make a lightsaber appear out of thin air.

Also, even if Yoda had a saber, Dumbledore could transform it into something useless and Yoda would never get it back.

This is an evenly pitched battle. Dumbledore does this spell, Yoda counters with the force, Yoda tries a force hold on Dumbledore, he evades......the only advantage here is Yodas SPEED and AGILITY.