For those who do not know Count Nefaria here'a a qquick bio.
Count Nefaria possesses the combined powers of the Lethal Legion (Power Man I, Whirlwind, and the Living Laser) multiplied a hundred fold. This entails that he possesses vast superhuman strength; the upward limit of this is unknown, but it must far surpass the threshold of what Marvel calls the "Class 100" Level, easily exceeding 100 tons. For example, Count Nefaria has gone toe-to-toe with a hammer-wielding Thor and lifted a submarine into the air. When he first obtained his power, Count Nefaria could jump great distances (greater than The Hulk's leaping ability), which appeared to be flight. He is now capable of self propelled flight at escape velocity (25,000 mph at least). He has the ability to emit laser-beam-like destructive rays from his eyes, which can cut through titanium armor easily. These powers are derived from the ionic energy housed in his corporeal form. To maintain his powers he must drain other ionic beings. It has been argued that, along with Graviton and the Molecule Man, Nefaria is one of the most powerful human villains alive.
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Wow they put this guy with the likes of Molecule Man, Superman has his hands full.
Supermans speed and eye lazers or whatever(the ones that are hotter than the sun) are more powerful than his. Superman's a lot faster if this guy only flies 25,000 mph. Evenn if he flew twice as fast as that he'd be no where near superman.
BUT he is most likely a lot physically stronger than superman so it could be a stalemate(i think then is when it would go either way for long time?) OR superman could toast him, freeze him, do his whirlwind thing. But ,if he got careless, Neferia could get some very powerful punches in.
Going by that Bio...
25k/mph? He'd need to move 25k/mpSECOND to even begin to close the speed gap.
Stood against Thor? Supes knocked him out.
Lifted a Sub? How about the moon?
Eye beams that can cut titanium? How about eye beams they can't even begin calculate the upper temperature of[Noting that we can guage the temperature of stars.]
Either this guy is a pud, or this bio sucks.
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guys, don't go by that brief description of Nefaria
it says he's "gone toe-to-toe with a hammer-wielding Thor" - the truth is he's taken Thor's most powerful hammer strikes without flinching and he laughed in Thor's face while taking it
the guys strength and durability are unparalleled on Marvel Earth (until Sentry's writer's decide otherwise that is)
yeah but superman's like thousands of times faster. And I believe power man's strength was like 30 tons, so even being a hundred times that supes prolly is up there in strength with him too.
And I think you know Jun, you don't have to move at superhuman speed to fight superman.
By the way the bio is incomplete, he actually defeated Thor after the fact, I think they word it that way to let us know he did it with his bare hands, while Thor was using the Hammer to NO effect.(Avengers #164)
Not meaning NO effect he's invulnerable to magic, if that's the hammer's thing, meaning he took blowS-excentuating S, from the Hammer being thrown at him and swung at him and he took it due to his bodies toughness.
Just because he's only lifted a submarine on panel doesn't mean that's as strong as he is, I'm sure Superman had a reason for moving that moon(was it current?), while Nefaria only needed to lift a sub. at the time he did.
By the way they don't mention it was an 18,700 Ton submarine he lifted out of the water while it was submerged, which means because of "displacement"(submerged objects fluxuating weight at the point of emergence) that submarine had to weigh much more, on top of that he threw it miles away(doesn't say how many).
As for for Superman's eye beams, well Nefaria took repeated blows from Thor's Hammer unscathed so, he can probably take the heat vision(imo).
But during the series Avengers#164-166 he fights WonderMan, and at one point WM screams "this can't be, you can't be as strong as I am" then PM knocks WM with a punch that lays him out.
Count Nefaria will beat him good, a full powered Count Nefaria will kill superman. A FP Count Nefaria is 2-3x streonger than normal Count nefaria and took on avengers and the thunder Bolts at the same time.
yeah............. but Thor wasn't there, the two teams strongest members were under Nefaria's control (Wonder Man & Atlas) and Iron Man was in a vintage model armour......
If thor was there he would've got work too, only way could beat him is to go warrior madness on his ass and that will be the only he can beat count nefaria (FP).
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