yea i mean back in the 80's Gravitron was makinghis flesh 100 times denser than the twice mutated Thing, who was stronger than the Hulk...and picking up entire skyscrapers and dropping them on the Thing, and trying to drive him into the center of the earth...magneto in 80's would never have been able to do something like that...it usually seemed the only reason Graviton would ever lose was when he was outsmarted or beaten by his own overconfidence and arrogance
Huh? Graviton, more powerful than Magneto? Magneto, a rip off of Graviton? Well...Graviton was created in 1978. Magneto was created in 1963.
Goodness, Graviton controls gravity; Magneto is the master of magnetism and can manipulate EVERY form of energy **related** to magnetism.
Graviton was more powerful than Magneto in the 80's...? Dunno about that, dude - The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe came out in 1983.
This is what it said about Magneto:
Although Magneto's power is not on the level of the Silver Surfer in his prime, it is for all practical purposes limitless.
LoL, Graviton is not more powerful than Magneto.
Twice mutated Thing was stronger than The Hulk? How so?
Id like to add something. everything has at least a slight polarization, a negative and a positive pole, due to mixtures of electrons and protons, which means that theoreticly Magneto can control just about any substance at the peak of his power, not just metal. Also his powers are electromagnetic, and he has shown to be capable of controlling electricity to a certain extent, such as emitting electric bolts, controling lightning, etc. although using his powers to this extent would be an incredible strain, its not beyond his limits.
Never....i dont think modern magneto would be out classed by gravitron...however, back when gravitron was new he was doing a lot of the stuff magneto does today, but they never thought to have magneto do back in the day....such as giving himself class 100 strength....another thing...how long can magneto last in space...gravitron has ridden pieces of rock in space...taken gasses from planets and nebuli in the correct ratio, to provide himself a breathable atmosphere...people mention magneto picking up 30,000 tons...gravitron lifted a skyscraper and dropped it on the thing and tried driving it to the center of the earth....and all he did was make a simple gesture with his hand....im glad someone put that picture of magneto up there...everytime he does anything he looks like he's constapated!!!...yet graviton did crazier stuff without making any effort...
Wyn, I will flat out disagree with you (about Magneto back in the day). The odd thing is he was consistently written as way more powerful then than now. Regarding Graviton, I distinctly remember him from West Coast Avengers days and he was...average. Magneto was always considered a NASTY threat in X-Man circles. I mean, seriously - Magneto has summoned inverted tornados, erected nigh impenetrable forcefields, single-handedly neutralized sentinels, electromagnetic pulses...mannn...
Graviton manipulates gravity. Wee. Magneto, again, not only is the master of magnetism, but also manipulates all energy related to magnetism. He is far more versatile, far more powerful, far more dangerous, far smarter. You read his profile, right? "For all practical purposes, limitless."
I liked what Claremont was doing with him in the early #200's when he was going on trial, and what he can do is always contingent on the writer.
Case-in-point: in New X-Men, Grant Morrison has him MUCH weaker (having to use the drug Kick to control what, 20 cars simultaneously). Chris Claremont had him torch the earth's magnetic field instantly without blinking an eye. Graviton's focus has to be local, while Magneto has shown to have global reach (reversing the earth's magnetic poles? I mean come ON bro, by doing so he compromised all time and space on earth. No comparison) on many occasions.
yea man.....i was not compaing modern magneto to gravton cuz there is no modern graviton.....u see that pic u posted with the sentinels? from graviton's fight with the FF i would think he would just fling those sentinels into space rather than sit there and fight with them....he picked up a skyskraper and dropped it on the Thing!!! with a casual wave of the wrist....why do u act like gravity is a small or unimportant force....it is more important and constant than magnetism...the poles have little to do with real magnetism, in terms of physics...they have more to do with gravitation, which applies to all matter!!!! and even light, as demonstrated by black holes....im not trying to play favorites....i think magneto is way cooler way smarter and way more deadly...but i think old school magneto would get devestated by gravi, who usually loses because of his stupidity and overconfidence
You don't think Magneto can fling a Sentinel into space?? Wow. Writers have him fight because its more exciting that way.
Poles have everything to do with magnetism. ever try to push two magnets together with the north poles facing each other? they don't touch right? thats because they are both negative poles. The only reason magnets are magnets is because the poles are separated. in normal matter the positively and negatively charged poles are spread throughout the object randomly, rendering it neutral. Magneto, being the master of magnetism that he is, can draw a charge(either positive or negative) to one side of the object, making it temporarily magnetic.
u obviously dont get it....there is picture of magneto straining right in front of u...all im saying is that magneto must put forth a lot of effort to use his techniques....there is no argument...that is why he is always clenching in all his pictures...all i meant was that u never see graviton doing that...however, right up there, all in ur face is a pic of magneto picking up some rocks and looking constapated...i dont see what the argument is..