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Storm vs. Human Torch
I guess people argue about the weather so that smiley is the best i could do.
Torch burnt her once and it took Dr. Doom to help her. I never finished that series so that's all i recall.
It was an accident that Torch burnt her. He was aiming for Wolverine, who was beating up Mr. Fantastic.
And Storm should be the winner. She's definitely a better fighter, is way smarter, has more heart and is more strongwilled, and can electrocute Torch in a matter of seconds. I know Torch can fry her also, but still, Storm has much better cards than Torch.
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I never saw that comic myself and I'm still unsure as to the full extent of the Human Torch's powers. He has been smothered by Venom, so I think Storm is more than capable of snuffing out his flame for at least a brief time to deliver the finishing blow.
I cannot remember the exact number (Amazing Spiderman #360?), but it was the comic where Venom believed Spiderman to be dead and stranded himself on a deserted island.
Human Torch accompanied Spiderman to make a visit with Venom about Carnage and seeing Peter alive again, he attacked. Venom smothered Human Torch's flame and nearly drowned him during the encounter. Although it wasn't a one-on-one fight between the two, I was using it as an example on subduing Torch's flame.
I could have elaborated Storm creating a "tropical rain storm" effect to subdue him as she did with Pyro, but the Venom battle was the first thing that popped up in my head.
How long would it take for Storm to conjure rain? It's not like Thor where he can conjure it in an instant. In that time, Torch would've KO'd Storm five times over. And I don't think rain is enough to extinguish Torch.
Actually, there have been numerous occasions where "conjuring" of weather have been instantaneous. She doesn't need to decorate the whole sky in order to utilize her abilities as a number of cases illustrated as if it was coming from her cape or from her hands.
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Venom didn't smother the Human Torch in the Spiderman Comic. He ran in underneath the sand and grabbed Johnny by the ankle pulling him into water to put out his flames.
Then Spidey had to run for it like a pus.sy until he could calm Venom down to tell him about Carnage.
It was #2 in the 3 part mini-series that introduced Carnage to the world.
Yeah Venom could have killed Torch had he been paying attention to him. The nova flame barely tickled him. As far as being doused, Torch can be doused fairly easily, Spider-Man has done it numerous times and he never really tries to hurt Johnny. I think Storm probably has this, though I can't stand her character.
Teenager? He hasn't been a teenager in ages. The guy's nearly 30 and he doesn't show off his power anymore. A nova blast would incinerate Storm, he doesn't work that way.
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She can generate a tornado to deflect the flame and create an air pocket inside of it that could shield her from the blast. I'm not saying she can sit on the sun but for a period of time she could survive. Did you see her in the latest X-men take that nuke into space. I think she could survive the blast. With a nuke the radiation would probably quickly kill her.
well torch can increase his intensity to where he is white hot and just maintain it...its not a supernova but he is surrounded by his Nova flame. When he exhibited a second mutation, kinda like the Thing did, and his powers reached the next level, he was perpetually white hot and couldnt flame off. It was a result of the Inferno story. When he had this power level Kang used him for one of his plans. In the perpetually white hot level, his flame could not be extinguished. He flew right through the planet Mars! and he was able to stay aflame in outerspace indefinitely. While white hot Storm would not be able to put him out, her best chance would be the lighting. However, Storm is not as diverse with her powers as the Torch has been. She is a better strategist and leader though...and a hell of a hand to hand combatant.
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I guess people argue about the weather so that smiley is the best i could do.
Nov 1st, 2004 09:19 PM
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