just h2h? again, flash's punching power stems from the momentum he gains by his overwhelming speed. if they are fighting same frame of speed or close to it, wally's punches won't do a thing to ss. even if he landed a 10,000 to ss's 1, his 10 000 wouldn't do jack to someone with ss's durability, and ss's one would disintegrate flash.
Originally posted by leonidas
just h2h? again, flash's punching power stems from the momentum he gains by his overwhelming speed. if they are fighting same frame of speed or close to it, wally's punches won't do a thing to ss. even if he landed a 10,000 to ss's 1, his 10 000 wouldn't do jack to someone with ss's durability, and ss's one would disintegrate flash.
What if Wally puts SS in an arm-bar? sneer
i think he's saying that if they are both moving faster than light side by side (as many fights play out by fast characters), the punches the flash would land on surfer wouldn't be the same as they would be to a slow-stationary opponent, he would lose out even further due to surfer's natural superior durability against a human fist.
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imo. surfer would be able to percieve the flash's movements at high speed, but on the off chance he gets hurt by a flash blitz (provided he's near the ground) and not ko'd, flash wouldn't be able to pull off a second one.
Originally posted by leonidasall punching power stems from momentum technically...
just h2h? again, flash's punching power stems from the momentum he gains by his overwhelming speed. if they are fighting same frame of speed or close to it, wally's punches won't do a thing to ss. even if he landed a 10,000 to ss's 1, his 10 000 wouldn't do jack to someone with ss's durability, and ss's one would disintegrate flash.
Originally posted by psycho gundamno...if this was true and surfer was capable of such...then he could do the same to anyone's punches, not just flashes
i think he's saying that if they are both moving faster than light side by side (as many fights play out by fast characters), the punches the flash would land on surfer wouldn't be the same as they would be to a slow-stationary opponent, he would lose out even further due to surfer's natural superior durability against a human fist.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ not many people punch surfer without super strength and durability.
flash needs his speed to cause massive impact.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaI don't agree that Surfer overwhelms Flash HtH. But Surfer has enough reflex feats to counter the notion that Flash would win a majority based only on speed blitzes. Surfer can react to him.
You heard it gentlemen. Surfer is capable of fighting h2h at the same frame of speed as Flash so that 10000 punches wouldn't do anything to Surfer who then lands one and owns Flash.I'll E-slap anybody who ever says that this board is DC biased.
I think that there is both DC and Marvel bias on this board. Everyone brings their bias.
Originally posted by Philosophía
You heard it gentlemen. Surfer is capable of fighting h2h at the same frame of speed as Flash so that 10000 punches wouldn't do anything to Surfer who then lands one and owns Flash.I'll E-slap anybody who ever says that this board is DC biased.
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you're . . . having some trouble today, eh? anywho, see gundam's reply. as far as the dc bias--you want a dc guy to win, stop pitting them against guys who are out of their league. 😬
if you seriously don't think ss can fight in or near the same frame of speed as flash, you, well . . . shrug
as a normal guy (which is what flash would be when fighting someone who is traveling near his OWN speed) flash could land a million blows and it wouldn't mean jack to surfer. meanwhile, ss only needs to hit him one and it's over.
Originally posted by leonidas
😂you're . . . having some trouble today, eh? anywho, see gundam's reply. as far as the dc bias--you want a dc guy to win, stop pitting them against guys who are out of their league. 😬
if you seriously don't think ss can fight in or near the same frame of speed as flash, you, well . . . shrug
as a normal guy (which is what flash would be when fighting someone who is traveling near his OWN speed) flash could land a million blows and it wouldn't mean jack to surfer. meanwhile, ss only needs to hit him one and it's over.