Emperor Palpatine vs. Harry Potter
Why the hell not?
Palpatine wants to turn Harry to the Dark Side.
Harry refuses.
Fight takes place in Palpatine's throne room on the Death Star.
Harry will not use any of the Forbidden spells, since he is pure of heart and refuses to use them. He has his wand.
Palpatine is the Dark Lord of the Sith and will fight dirty with the Dark Side of the Force.
Remember: The Throne Room has a lot of obstacles, debris, and cover.
The Force versus Magic. Who wins?
Well, considering that Harry can produce shield charms, there's no way the Emperor's lightning blasts get to him. Harry waits for the right moment, Petrificus totalus, or one of the many spells Harry knows and can use, he defeats the Emperor.
I dont know why people will not accept that HP magic trumps the force in every possible way. Oncreen feats have proven this time and time again, FFS just watch the Half Blood Prince.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, considering that Harry can produce shield charms, there's no way the Emperor's lightning blasts get to him. Harry waits for the right moment, Petrificus totalus, or one of the many spells Harry knows and can use, he defeats the Emperor.I dont know why people will not accept that HP magic trumps the force in every possible way. Oncreen feats have proven this time and time again, FFS just watch the Half Blood Prince.
Well, that'd work if spells didn't travel at like....60 mph.
Since they are slow as hell, there's no reason that a force user as adept as Palpitine wouldn't be able to dodge those spells, with ease, no doubt.
On top of that, the fight is over in less than a second with force choke.
The HP wizards are certainly powerful, but the spell casting is the problem: it's too slow. Anyone that is fast can take out HP, with ease. That's HP's weakness. Now, Dumbledore might be more of a challenge...He's rather fast.
If it's one on one, even a padawan could take out Harry Potter.
Originally posted by dadudemon60 MPH? Watch the OOTP dueling again. Here:
Well, that'd work if spells didn't travel at like....60 mph.On top of that, the fight is over in less than a second with force choke.
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In particular when Harry is fighting side by side with Sirius against Lucius and the bearded death eater. the spells and jinxes are flying around fast as hell, most of them non verbal, and they are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster than 60 mph. They reach their intended victim almost as fast if not as fast as a force choke would.
At 3:02, Harry crucios Bellatrix, he does so on the run. It took maybe a second for him to cast the spell and have it hit her.
And as for the force choke attack, Harry escaped being choked by the death eater easy enough. If Palpy gets him in a force choke, Harry merely casts a non verbal spell and counters.
This shit's too easy, there should be a rule about SW versus HP threads, HP magic is far too powerful.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Takes Harry less than a second to cast a spell, dude. In OOTP, he crucios Bellatrix, and it hits her near instantly.
Yeah, at mere feet away.
Sorry, man. Spells aren't even remotely as fast as blaster bolts. There's no comparison here.
On top of that, Palps has battle precog. Even if Harry got the drop on Palps, he still dodges without a problem. Harry would have to apparate right behind Palps in order for Palps to not have enough moving room in order to dodge. But, if Harry does that, he ends up in pieces, on the floor.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, at mere feet away.Sorry, man. Spells aren't even remotely as fast as blaster bolts. There's no comparison here.
On top of that, Palps has battle precog. Even if Harry got the drop on Palps, he still dodges without a problem. Harry would have to apparate right behind Palps in order for Palps to not have enough moving room in order to dodge. But, if Harry does that, he ends up in pieces, on the floor.
but what if harry asked hermione to seduce Palps first???
Originally posted by dadudemonHmm.....Palpy is never shown dodging blaster bolts. See what I did there?
Yeah, at mere feet away.Sorry, man. Spells aren't even remotely as fast as blaster bolts. There's no comparison here.
On top of that, Palps has battle precog. Even if Harry got the drop on Palps, he still dodges without a problem. Harry would have to apparate right behind Palps in order for Palps to not have enough moving room in order to dodge. But, if Harry does that, he ends up in pieces, on the floor.
Yeah, and Jedi/Sith precog has been proven time and time again as being imperfect.
BTW, Harry is being gimped here. He "knows the spell", the death spell, he knows several dark spells, why cant he use them? Palpy is at full strength and can use everything he has, but Harry cant? Gimp. Oddly enough, despite being gimped, Harry still wins here.
Unless Palpantine kills him right away, in less than a second, Harry will cast a shield charm and deflect everything Palpy throws at him. Palpy never killed anyone that fast, ergo Harry casts the shield charm, deflects Palpys attacks, then Petrificus Totalus's him. Easy cheesy.
I now present this question: Harry casts a shield charm, Palpy cannot attack through the shield charm. What then?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hmm.....Palpy is never shown dodging blaster bolts. See what I did there?
I see what you did. But, he's better than Yoda, and Yoda was seen doing that. He was better than 3 other Jedi Masters, and they were shown doing that.
It's called the transitive property.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, and Jedi/Sith precog has been proven time and time again as being imperfect.
Great. So how does this relate to a boy who doesn't compare to the speed and skill of even a beginner Padawan?
And when did Palps battle precog fail?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
BTW, Harry is being gimped here. He "knows the spell", the death spell, he knows several dark spells, why cant he use them? Palpy is at full strength and can use everything he has, but Harry cant? Gimp. Oddly enough, despite being gimped, Harry still wins here.
It still doesn't help, though. The spells don't travel nearly fast enough to matter.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Unless Palpantine kills him right away, in less than a second, Harry will cast a shield charm and deflect everything Palpy throws at him. Palpy never killed anyone that fast, ergo Harry casts the shield charm, deflects Palpys attacks, then Petrificus Totalus's him. Easy cheesy.
Shield charm, huh? That takes a while to do. How is he supposed to stay in one piece while casting it? How he is supposed to finish it whilst force choke is being employed?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I now present this question: Harry casts a shield charm, Palpy cannot attack through the shield charm. What then?
Harry is dead before Harry can finish the encantation.
Also, shield charms work for spells and physical objects. Not the force. Harry is still force choked with ease. 😄
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, considering that Harry can produce shield charms, there's no way the Emperor's lightning blasts get to him. Harry waits for the right moment, Petrificus totalus, or one of the many spells Harry knows and can use, he defeats the Emperor.I dont know why people will not accept that HP magic trumps the force in every possible way. Oncreen feats have proven this time and time again, FFS just watch the Half Blood Prince.
It's official, you're a bigger Harry Potter fanboy than you're a Star Wars one. Sad day indeed, RJ. Sad day.
Originally posted by Impediment
Palpatine uses the Force to grab Harry's wand. Force Lightning./thread.
Shizer. Didn't think of that.
So, I guess they have a little bit of knowledge of each, then?
If not, one could assume that Palps would use his battle precog to quickly disarm Harry before he starts going to town nad here's why:
Vader pulled Solol's gun out of his hand, no problem. Not only that, Vader anticpated Solo's shots and blocked them...for teh lulz.
Originally posted by jaden101
It makes him a more efficient predatory paedophile.
All of the potter fans I know are over 18 cause the first Harry Potter book came out in 2001 and the children would be between 10-13 (when it came out)
That fits well with the fact that his previous two girl friends were late teens early twenties. (still makes them legal, though.)
He'd have to be a fan of twilight to get the current gen. of young female fantasy fanatics.
Originally posted by RobtardHere you go, accusing me of random bullshit just because you're so blind you cant see how powerful HP magic is. Stop being a ****ing *******, dude, you know for a fact that SW is number one in my heart. Either PROVE what I say to be wrong or STFU.
It's official, you're a bigger Harry Potter fanboy than you're a Star Wars one. Sad day indeed, RJ. Sad day.
Originally posted by dadudemonSorry, was the Emperor shown being that fast as a crusty old man? Nope.
I see what you did. But, he's better than Yoda, and Yoda was seen doing that. He was better than 3 other Jedi Masters, and they were shown doing that.It's called the transitive property.
Great. So how does this relate to a boy who doesn't compare to the speed and skill of even a beginner Padawan?Precog was shown time and time again in general to be borderline unreliable.And when did Palps battle precog fail?
Shield charm, huh? That takes a while to do. How is he supposed to stay in one piece while casting it? How he is supposed to finish it whilst force choke is being employed?http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Arresto_Momentum
Harry is dead before Harry can finish the encantation.
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Arresto_Momentum
Also, shield charms work for spells and physical objects. Not the force. Harry is still force choked with ease. 😄
Oh really? Then pretell why didnt the death eaters in THBP, you know, the ones that tried crashing through the shield charm surrounding Hogwarts, try casting spells through the shield charm? Hmm? Because NOTHING gets through a shield charm, dude, nothing, not even the force. there, I just proved without a doubt that the force cannot penetrate a shield charm.
Originally posted by ImpedimentRight, and Harry just stands there like a doe in headlights? Dont be stupid, even without his wand, Harry has non verbal spells and jinxes.
Palpatine uses the Force to grab Harry's wand. Force Lightning./thread.
And, if they have knowledge of each other, Harry is gonna be on the move from the get go. Accio invisibility cloak, confundus charm, petrificus totalus. See, you have to actually KNOW the HP magic spells to realize Harry wins this, and apparently you dont.
Wait, lemmee guess. no cloak for Harry? More gimping, eh? 🙄
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now it's time for the final nail in Palpy's coffin:
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Felix_Felicis
After all, Harry should have access to all his spells and potions he is shown using in the movies, yes?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here you go, accusing me of random bullshit just because you're so blind you cant see how powerful HP magic is. Stop being a ****ing *******, dude, you know for a fact that SW is number one in my heart. Either PROVE what I say to be wrong or STFU.
The fact that Palpatine can react faster(see: Force-precog and Force-amped personally abilities) with Force-Lightning, Force-choke or simply Force-push Potter so hard into a wall it breaks every prepubescent bone in his body, is why he wins over some kid with a little wand and a few spells.
Also, many HP spells get blocked by shit like walls, doors and tombstones, so Palpatine is likely to block a spell with his sabre, not that it'd get that far into the fight in the first place.