Originally posted by cdtm
So are you pointing out dumb Wally is so normalized, anything smart would be PIS?The same way it is argued Batman being indestructible because he's Batman is not PIS? 🙂
I am saying that dumb Wally is PIS as laid out in forum rules 🙂
Batman's very concept is PIS, so tbf we should throw EVERYTHING he does, out if we are throwing his PIS-ness out.
No human can do what he does, and I don't mean his herald-level performances. He's an Olympic level weightlifter, marathon runner, sprinter and gymnast, whilst being a black belt in a gazillion martial arts, fluent in a bajillion languages (enough to pass as a native if needed) etc etc...
As I said nearly 6 years ago:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman, easily. Him being Batman alone is already superhuman.As I've said before:
Imagine a celebrity famous for doing nothing except being a rich heir to a fortune, and a party animal. In effect, Paris Hilton.
Now imagine that person also has the business smarts of a Bill Gates.
So far, so good. Ashton Kutcher is like this, after all.
Now Paris Hilton, is also a master of 127 different martial arts. Something that some people take decades just to master one or two.
Ninja Paris Hilton, also holds multiple degrees in engineering, forensic sciences, applied mechanics etc etc etc. And is able to take others' work apart, not just Earth tech, but also Kryptonian/Thanagarian/Martian/Apokolipton etc tech, and understand it.
Ninja Paris, PhDx10, ALSO speaks five or six different languages, fluently, fluently enough she could easily disguise herself (another skill she's learnt, btw), and blend in anywhere in the world.
All by the age of 35.
And is also a master escape artist.
And is an Olympic level gymnast, powerlifter, and is pretty decent and sprinting AND marathons.
And can KO horses.
If we say 'well, a human can't stand up to punishment from WW', then we need to also say 'well a human can't do everything Batman does in his normal, everyday life'.
It's like throwing Karate Kid's feats all out, because he is 'merely human'. Space Karate be damned, his muscles and tendons etc are still human level.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are you following this storyline? I've seen alot of articles about him getting older and weaker and DC pushing his son as the next Superman. Not sure yet on whether to pick it up
It never works, fanbase and casualbase want both to stick with the real deals.
Damian and that loser superkid are both garbage characters, worth less than Grey Goblin or Batroc Girl.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Diaman wasn't easy at first, but he did end up "succeeding".Jon? Not sure how that will turn out. Need 3-4 years.
Now, it feels awfully forced. And unnecessary.
I hope he gets retconned into being Pr's kid. Then he gets Doomsday'd.
I actually think that's going to happen. He gets killed, Clark snaps and we have another crisis to erase the events
What happened to the justice league dark book
Originally posted by carver9
What is that he's lifting? He seems to still be pretty fast. Over the speed of sound by a bit but Wally would dance circles around him. Can't wait to read this. It's kind of backwards because it's always been established that Superman gets more powerful the older he gets due to him absorbing solar energy for a long period of time.
I feel like you are reading it for the wrong reason, Morrison might be over your head carver.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He means his biggest upgrade outside the Odinforce has been downgraded to just another ex-herald.
Also, as powerful as the PC is, it still shouldn't be anything compared to the OdinForce. Certainly not the portion Galactus gave.
Like giving Classic Odin a GL ring - what possible amp could it give?
One's an Olympic sized swimming pool, whilst the PC that Thor got is akin to a kid's paddling pool.
Odin, with the OdinForce, could fight Galactus on his own.
Galactus bestowed *a* portion of the PC onto Thor whilst he had the OdinForce, then Thor lost that portion. Why should it matter if he has the PC or not, when the OdinForce is so much more powerful - THAT is the point.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Galactus bestowed *a* portion of the PC onto Thor whilst he had the OdinForce, then Thor lost that portion. Why should it matter if he has the PC or not, when the OdinForce is so much more powerful - THAT is the point.
Ah I get you. Logically it shouldnt. But Odinforce Thor has rarely been shown to be as impressive as Odin.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, as powerful as the PC is, it still shouldn't be anything compared to the OdinForce. Certainly not the portion Galactus gave.Like giving Classic Odin a GL ring - what possible amp could it give?
One's an Olympic sized swimming pool, whilst the PC that Thor got is akin to a kid's paddling pool.
Odin, with the OdinForce, could fight Galactus on his own.
Galactus bestowed *a* portion of the PC onto Thor whilst he had the OdinForce, then Thor lost that portion. Why should it matter if he has the PC or not, when the OdinForce is so much more powerful - THAT is the point.
I think you're reaching and digging way to deep into this. It amped him. Just that simple. Doesn't take away from his normal, Odin Force form being powerful as all out.