Originally posted by carver9
I already told you, because Slade is FTL...he is far faster than Flash... and Darkseid attack? Which one. Scan of Frank showing. Also, you didn't explain why Orion allowed Agogg and Kalibak to hit him if he has speed. Please answer this.
😂 😂
Slade was owned by Flash, too. Aquaman owned him straight up. So, I guess Aquaman is FTL speeds????
Originally posted by Zack M
😂 😂Slade was owned by Flash, too. Aquaman owned him straight up. So, I guess Aquaman is FTL speeds????
No, Slade is FTL since he tagged Flash who in turn tagged Wonder Woman. So Slade tagged Wonder Woman because he's FTL. Why did Kalibak tag Orion.
Kalibak tagging Orion...
Slow Kalibak.
Originally posted by carver9
H1...you forgot the main piece to the Amazo showing. She held her own against him and he was stacked with the power of the entirety of the JLA.At the end of that, she was going against his strength and was pushing him back with her strength and actually held him off for a bit. He couldn't push her back. This showing is better than anything Orion has done his entire career. She held AMAZO off when the entirety of the JLA failed at doing this.
Why are you using this?
Originally posted by carver9
H1...you forgot the main piece to the Amazo showing. She held her own against him and he was stacked with the power of the entirety of the JLA.At the end of that, she was going against his strength and was pushing him back with her strength and actually held him off for a bit. He couldn't push her back. This showing is better than anything Orion has done his entire career. She held AMAZO off when the entirety of the JLA failed at doing this.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Why are you using this?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I am curious too.
Carter, we're waiting.
Originally posted by carver9
H1...you forgot the main piece to the Amazo showing. She held her own against him and he was stacked with the power of the entirety of the JLA.
Well you never answered my question. So I'll tell you why I'm perplexed you're making such a big deal out of this. I mean, you've stated numerous times said Amazo doesn't impress you.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm giving this to Morg then...not impressed by Amazo durability.
Originally posted by carver9
If CIS is on, Amazo can lose against Hulk. His durability is terrible.
Originally posted by carver9
A lot of people ripped through Amazo. Not that great of a ft.
Originally posted by carver9
Amazo durability sucks though. He got his head ripped off by Black Adam. Batman tied some explosives to his head and almost took his head off and wrecked him with the Batmobile. He also got chopped up with lasers and had a blade sent through him by Flash.
Maybe it was the particular version of Amazo that Wonder Woman fought that impressed you so much? Well, if so, I'll give you some slack. Oh, wait a minute.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way...Wonder Woman stalemated Amazo and actually had the advantage in their fight.
In fact, I already quoted you bringing-up Flash puncturing Amazo. And here's more of you trashing that Amazo.
Originally posted by carver9
Vixen>>>>> Superman heat vision. That's not includingAlso, Lantern punched a hole straight through Amazo.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/3432775-wonder+woman+blocks+heat+vision+2.jpg
Flash stabbed straight through this same Amazo as well with a pole. Amazo durability SUCKS which is the reason why I don't understand why you all rate him so high. Do you honestly think Flash would ram a pole through Superman or Green Lantern would blast a hole through him with ease? Stop ABHI. Just stop.
Originally posted by carver9
Flash stabbed through him with a rod. Did you forget to add that to your list. Amazo durability isn't that great. What's wrong with me using the one installed in RT body. He still had the JLA powers, correct?
Originally posted by carver9
Don't get your point in the retarded ft comment. Like I've stated, Amazo doesn't have the durability most think he have. Flash stabbing him as easily as he did proves this (hope this isnt lowballing)
Originally posted by carver9
Its durability sucked PERIOD. The latest Amazo that was shown fighting Diana durability sucked. The earlier versions of Amazo durability was beastly, the latest versions durability was crap.That Amazo was stated as still having the league powers. It can't get any clearer than that.
ect ect ect
So, Amazo is shit, you even bring up Wonder Woman stalemating Amazo as an example, but when you need to elevate Wonder Woman, suddenly Amazo is uber here and in the Maxima vs Wonder Woman threads? I bet if I made or topped a Hulk vs Amazo thread in a month when you've forgotten being exposed for the hypocritical liar you are, you'll pimp out Wonder Woman stalemating Amazo to argue Amazo isn't that impressive.
Originally posted by carver9
At the end of that, she was going against his strength and was pushing him back with her strength and actually held him off for a bit. He couldn't push her back. This showing is better than anything Orion has done his entire career. She held AMAZO off when the entirety of the JLA failed at doing this.
This is a lie. That, or your incompetence. Or both. Don't bother bringing her getting momentum and tackling(of a sorts) him through the floor with surprise. Once Amazo actually resisted, from a poor position he straight-up overpowered her. In fact he was hurting her wrists as he was forcing her down.
And after all the arguments you made about Amazo that his durability is shit, including this Amazo(Flash puncturing him, Hal blasting through him), looky look!! Wonder Woman can't damage him at all with a kick. A very powerful kick, right to the head.
And Amazo would go on to all but knock her the **** out with one punch, from a bad position, before frying her. Zatanna would have to save Diana's ass. But Amazo's head? Yeah, earlier Black Canary did this.
So, you can either contradict yourself, effectively publicly admitting you're a hypocritical liar, and go back on all your prior arguments that Amazo's durability is shit, and just argue that he's quite vulnerable to piercing and energy attacks but his blunt force durability is insane. Or, you could continue what you argued before, and have it be Black Canary's voice>>>>Wonder Woman's kicks.
So, what is it? You're admitting to lying and contradicting yourself to keep from conceding, or Black Canary's voice>>>>>Wonder Woman's kicks? Choose wisely.
If I were to go your route and omit context or contradict what I've argued before, I can bring-up this.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Heroes/Orion/Darkseid/COUNTDOWN
Orion actually does match strength with Darkseid there, beats on him, and rips his heart out. Also look what his Astro-Force "storm" did, knocking back the JLAers that came to them. Yeah, to argue Wonder Woman's fight with Amazo is more impressive than anything Orion's done in his career requires you contradicting what you've argued before, exaggerating or outright lying about things, and omitting context(like weakness exploitation being used against Superman, which you've tried to use manipulative wording to dismiss that as irrelevant when called out on your bullshit).
And on top of this, Wonder Woman is given A-List treatment and has around 5 times as many appearances as Orion. Yeah, you'll need more than one dishonestly used example of Wonder Woman against Amazo to match Orion's fight against Darkseid there, kiddo.
Originally posted by h1a8
To say that Orion is faster AND more skilled tha Diana is trolling. That's like saying Thing is stronger than the Hulk. This is basic comic knowledge. These aren't rare characters that many don't know about. Everyone here knows those facts except you. You shouldn't be even in the thread with such lack of basic knowledge. Orion is possibly stronger and more durable and has better versatility. But that's about it. Speed and skill easily goes to Diana.You take one showing by Orion (thinking it's better than every WW feat) as if it represents his entire career. Then you lowball WW by listing low showings for her. That's the classic lowball highball con game. I can make Thing look better than Thor with that game.
I'll post scans when I get to my computer. Don't worry. I have posted lots of scans here.
Ya know, it's really pretty sad that you accuse people so often of trolling. "I disagree with you therefore you're trolling." This is what it boils down to. It's practically inevitable that you'll say someone that you disagree with is trolling. Aren't you supposed to be a teacher? You must be a terrible one. Your tolerance for people you disagree with comes off like a self-entitled 12 year old. You accusing people of trolling because you don't have an argument doesn't make you look clever. It makes you look like a whiny little *****. 😬 If anybody should be reported for trolling, it's you.
Anyways, you have yet to actually show something relevant for Wonder Woman as I stated. And Orion is an actual war god, this Wonder Woman is not. Wonder Woman does have skill feats, but Orion's better ones are better, since I've actually seen him use skill to compensate for someone much stronger than him that's also a skilled opponent. I've seen Wonder Woman use skill to compensate for stronger opponents, but not like I've seen Orion do. Did it ever occur to you that I'm not trolling, you're simply ignorant? Well, admitting that to yourself might have you admit you don't read comics. vin
And it's not possibly Orion is stronger/more durable. He is. And you can say all you want she's faster and more skilled, you saying "common knowledge" isn't posting evidence.
I posted one showing for Orion because nobody has posted a single relevant example for Wonder Woman. Come back when you have one, kid. I'm not doing "lowball/highball," you're arguing against a character who has a fraction of her appearances, doesn't get A-List treatment for being really popular, and still has actual combat speed feats that nobody arguing for WW has been able to produce similar examples of.
Originally posted by h1a8
This is for Delta who thinks Orion is faster.She outraces hv and then blocks multiple beams simultaneously. This is an FTL feat.
More blocking multiple beams simultaneously.
These are not even her best feats of speed either. But I think these are enough. Now show Orion moving faster than that.
And absolutely none of those are what I asked for. No points for you.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Gotta love how you completely ignore my destruction of your argument and you just pretend I'm not here. 😆Wonder Woman makes Orion a sandwich after he beats her.
That's Caever for you. He completely avoids threads where he is getting obliterated, like the Aquaman vs Hulk thread he made, to prove that Aquaman defeated an Imperex probe underwater and that Aquaman can do the same to Hulk, but he realized that too late 😂
Originally posted by Delta1938
Gotta love how you completely ignore my destruction of your argument and you just pretend I'm not here.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That's Caever for you. He completely avoids threads where he is getting obliterated, like the Aquaman vs Hulk thread he made, to prove that Aquaman defeated an Imperex probe underwater and that Aquaman can do the same to Hulk, but he realized that too late 😂
