Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That's Caever for you. He completely avoids threads where he is getting obliterated, like the Aquaman vs Hulk thread he made, to prove that Aquaman defeated an Imperex probe underwater and that Aquaman can do the same to Hulk, but he realized that too late 😂
Originally posted by zopzop
Dude doesn't even have the decency to wait until a new page to pretend he never saw my post!! 😱
Originally posted by Delta1938
Well you never answered my question. So I'll tell you why I'm perplexed you're making such a big deal out of this. I mean, you've stated numerous times said Amazo doesn't impress you.Maybe it was the particular version of Amazo that Wonder Woman fought that impressed you so much? Well, if so, I'll give you some slack. Oh, wait a minute.
In fact, I already quoted you bringing-up Flash puncturing Amazo. And here's more of you trashing that Amazo.
ect ect ect
So, Amazo is shit, you even bring up Wonder Woman stalemating Amazo as an example, but when you need to elevate Wonder Woman, suddenly Amazo is uber here and in the Maxima vs Wonder Woman threads? I bet if I made or topped a Hulk vs Amazo thread in a month when you've forgotten being exposed for the hypocritical liar you are, you'll pimp out Wonder Woman stalemating Amazo to argue Amazo isn't that impressive.
This is a lie. That, or your incompetence. Or both. Don't bother bringing her getting momentum and tackling(of a sorts) him through the floor with surprise. Once Amazo actually resisted, from a poor position he straight-up overpowered her. In fact he was hurting her wrists as he was forcing her down.
And after all the arguments you made about Amazo that his durability is shit, including this Amazo(Flash puncturing him, Hal blasting through him), looky look!! Wonder Woman can't damage him at all with a kick. A very powerful kick, right to the head.
And Amazo would go on to all but knock her the **** out with one punch, from a bad position, before frying her. Zatanna would have to save Diana's ass. But Amazo's head? Yeah, earlier Black Canary did this.
So, you can either contradict yourself, effectively publicly admitting you're a hypocritical liar, and go back on all your prior arguments that Amazo's durability is shit, and just argue that he's quite vulnerable to piercing and energy attacks but his blunt force durability is insane. Or, you could continue what you argued before, and have it be Black Canary's voice>>>>Wonder Woman's kicks.
So, what is it? You're admitting to lying and contradicting yourself to keep from conceding, or Black Canary's voice>>>>>Wonder Woman's kicks? Choose wisely.
If I were to go your route and omit context or contradict what I've argued before, I can bring-up this.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Heroes/Orion/Darkseid/COUNTDOWN
Orion actually does match strength with Darkseid there, beats on him, and rips his heart out. Also look what his Astro-Force "storm" did, knocking back the JLAers that came to them. Yeah, to argue Wonder Woman's fight with Amazo is more impressive than anything Orion's done in his career requires you contradicting what you've argued before, exaggerating or outright lying about things, and omitting context(like weakness exploitation being used against Superman, which you've tried to use manipulative wording to dismiss that as irrelevant when called out on your bullshit).
And on top of this, Wonder Woman is given A-List treatment and has around 5 times as many appearances as Orion. Yeah, you'll need more than one dishonestly used example of Wonder Woman against Amazo to match Orion's fight against Darkseid there, kiddo.
Just because I don't rate him as high as you all do doesn't take away from my argument. My argument this entire time is, Wonder Woman pulled something the entire league couldn't pull and that was hold Amazo off.
Flash stabbed him with a rod while Amazo wasn't even engaging him. Flash got destroyed as soon as Amazo set his attention on Flash. Don't get what you are trying to prove here.
She was holding him off, he then try to hit her with arrows. She dodge said arrows (while he was looking right at her), went through the roof, turned around blitzed back through the roof, and tackled Amazo before he could react. Some surprise attack.
Zatanna did save her once but she still held her own just like I said. The others were out.
Sigh..here we go with this lying stuff again. I'm not talking to you to defend myself on if I'm lying or not. I'm here to debate. If you think I am lying then just prove me wrong. It's a waste of time when I can be doing something useful, like either playing smite or destroying Darksaint and Pr in a debate.
You might as well say Black Canary scream>>>Superman blitz since Superman didn't do any physical damage when he bull rushed Amazo.
Lol...appearance of physical damage doesn't mean a person isn't hurt. Her kick obviously did something looking at Amazo facial expression.
Originally posted by carver9
Just because I don't rate him as high as you all do doesn't take away from my argument. My argument this entire time is, Wonder Woman pulled something the entire league couldn't pull and that was hold Amazo off.Flash stabbed him with a rod while Amazo wasn't even engaging him. Flash got destroyed as soon as Amazo set his attention on Flash. Don't get what you are trying to prove here.
She was holding him off, he then try to hit her with arrows. She dodge said arrows (while he was looking right at her), went through the roof, turned around blitzed back through the roof, and tackled Amazo before he could react. Some surprise attack.
Zatanna did save her once but she still held her own just like I said. The others were out.
Sigh..here we go with this lying stuff again. I'm not talking to you to defend myself on if I'm lying or not. I'm here to debate. If you think I am lying then just prove me wrong. It's a waste of time when I can be doing something useful, like either playing smite or destroying Darksaint and Pr in a debate.
You might as well say Black Canary scream>>>Superman blitz since Superman didn't do any physical damage when he bull rushed Amazo.
Lol...appearance of physical damage doesn't mean a person isn't hurt. Her kick obviously did something looking at Amazo facial expression.
It's quite clear you weren't impressed at all by Amazo, right up until you needed to elevate Wonder Woman. You yourself used the fight stalemating her as your argument that Amazo wasn't all that impressive, when you needed him to not be impressive. You arguing "she did what the league couldn't" requires manipulative arguments.
What does Flash stabbing him when Amazo wasn't engaging him have to do with the fact it went through? You used Flash stabbing him multiple times to say Amazo has poor durability. You think if Amazo knew about it but just stood there it wouldn't have gone through?
You're making it out to be more than it is, as has been explained.
She avoided stuff, tackled him by surprise, got overpowered and nearly knocked out. This means Amazo is meh when it suits you and amazing when it suits you.
Don't avoid my question. Are you contradicting yourself about Amazo's durability now that you need him to be impressive? You bringing-up Superman would just prove my point, actually.
Amazo being an android, does he even feel pain? Prove it if you can. But regardless, Black Canary shattered his head. Flash stabbed him. Hal blasted a hole in him. You used two of those consistently to argue Amazo has terrible durability. But Wonder Woman's kick did nothing. Is it his energy and piercing durability is poor but blunt force durability is immense now that you need it to be, or will you stick to he has poor durability like you argued so hard before when you needed him to have it?
Also, I proved you wrong about her strength performance. Once he actually resisted, he easily overpowered her. What a coincidence you glossed over that.
Also, I'm sure DarkSaint would love your response.
Originally posted by carver9
Something like that?And her force field is talked about here.
Originally posted by Delta1938
DarkSaint, from what I remember, it might actually have turned out to be Circe with amnesia and thinking she was(and looking like) one of Diana's friends and had protected them. So, that's quite possibly carter getting it wrong, or just straight-up lying.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver is this true?
Carter
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=16071801#post16071801
Originally posted by carver9
Just because I don't rate him as high as you all do doesn't take away from my argument. My argument this entire time is, Wonder Woman pulled something the entire league couldn't pull and that was hold Amazo off.Flash stabbed him with a rod while Amazo wasn't even engaging him. Flash got destroyed as soon as Amazo set his attention on Flash. Don't get what you are trying to prove here.
She was holding him off, he then try to hit her with arrows. She dodge said arrows (while he was looking right at her), went through the roof, turned around blitzed back through the roof, and tackled Amazo before he could react. Some surprise attack.
Zatanna did save her once but she still held her own just like I said. The others were out.
Sigh..here we go with this lying stuff again. I'm not talking to you to defend myself on if I'm lying or not. I'm here to debate. If you think I am lying then just prove me wrong. It's a waste of time when I can be doing something useful, like either playing smite or destroying Darksaint and Pr in a debate.
You might as well say Black Canary scream>>>Superman blitz since Superman didn't do any physical damage when he bull rushed Amazo.
Lol...appearance of physical damage doesn't mean a person isn't hurt. Her kick obviously did something looking at Amazo facial expression.
Originally posted by Delta1938
It's quite clear you weren't impressed at all by Amazo, right up until you needed to elevate Wonder Woman. You yourself used the fight stalemating her as your argument that Amazo wasn't all that impressive, when you needed him to not be impressive. You arguing "she did what the league couldn't" requires manipulative arguments.What does Flash stabbing him when Amazo wasn't engaging him have to do with the fact it went through? You used Flash stabbing him multiple times to say Amazo has poor durability. You think if Amazo knew about it but just stood there it wouldn't have gone through?
You're making it out to be more than it is, as has been explained.
She avoided stuff, tackled him by surprise, got overpowered and nearly knocked out. This means Amazo is meh when it suits you and amazing when it suits you.
Don't avoid my question. Are you contradicting yourself about Amazo's durability now that you need him to be impressive? You bringing-up Superman would just prove my point, actually.
Amazo being an android, does he even feel pain? Prove it if you can. But regardless, Black Canary shattered his head. Flash stabbed him. Hal blasted a hole in him. You used two of those consistently to argue Amazo has terrible durability. But Wonder Woman's kick did nothing. Is it his energy and piercing durability is poor but blunt force durability is immense now that you need it to be, or will you stick to he has poor durability like you argued so hard before when you needed him to have it?
Also, I proved you wrong about her strength performance. Once he actually resisted, he easily overpowered her. What a coincidence you glossed over that.
Hello!!
Originally posted by Delta1938
So you bumped the thread for the sole purpose of running away from it again.
Throughout New 52 it was hinted that Wonder Woman is above every single Olympian God including Zeus here first born after killing Apollo and Hades States that Wonder Woman is the Only God that's actually worthy of being killed by him.
btw hera who is way below Wonder Woman was able to do this to the new god Orion.
Olympian Gods are extremely powerful
For some context this is what the minator did to Orion
Takes out Orion plus the goddess of the moon notice both knocked out
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Throughout New 52 it was hinted that Wonder Woman is above every single Olympian God including Zeus here first born after killing Apollo and Hades States that Wonder Woman is the Only God that's actually worthy of being killed by him.btw hera who is way below Wonder Woman was able to do this to the new god Orion.
Olympian Gods are extremely powerfulFor some context this is what the minator did to Orion
Takes out Orion plus the goddess of the moon notice both knocked out
Yeah I don't give a **** and skipped over everything as soon as I saw "throughout New 52."
Read the OP.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Uh huh and what would give you the win over Diana from orion?
For one, the fact he consistently does better against Superman than her. In fact the only time she looked comparable to Orion was when Superman was mind controlled and likely weakened. One of those Superman/Orion fights had Wonder Woman plus Superboy/Steel/Martian Manhunter/Barda/Supergirl together barely restraining Superman.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
no. I'm actually not. do you want a scan that supports the notion of new 52/rebirth being the same as pre flashpoint?
Do you have one that applies to Wonder Woman specifically?
So far the only ones I've seen directly referenced are Superman, Aquaman and Wally West, so any more would be appreciated.
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Also, guys, try to be nicer, please.
