if Galactus is at maximum power, the skyfather are death... immediatly
3 skyfather had attacked 1 celestian, and they didn't anything
Galactus is much powerful...
Galactus maximum power > Eternity and < Living Tribunal
Galactus sated < Eternity and much > Celestials
No. As of right now, we know that Loki's theft of the seed alerted the armor and it reacted. Odin was still mumbling gibberish when the destroyer reacted so I know it's not him animating it before he passes out. And it anyway, does it make a difference? Odin had to run and fetch an upgrade after his "best planned" attack failed.
Yes like a Mikaboshi-enhanced Zeus failed to KO a weak Galactus?
Yes, I like how you have to assume Galactus will stand there passively like fraction brilliantly depicted it so that the Skyfathers have a chance to KO themselves after Galactus tanks their best physical hits by standing still as a statue while they rush in with all their godly might.
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Odin did fine his fight vs Galactus. He held his own for a while and then when he saw that neither side was getting anywhere, he broke off and tried something else. The Destroyer Armor is Odin's, he created it. Like he created Mjolnir, the Odinsword, Gungnir, etc... It's his personal item.
And that was only ONE skyfather. Add in Zeus or more and you have a dead Galactus, no Destroyer Armor needed.
And concerning [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Loki animating the Destroyer Armor, how do you explain the fact that whoever is inside that Armor called Mjolnir from Thor's hand and to himself? How would Loki accomplish that?
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We see next issue if you eat your words or not. Herald's alone sometimes give Galactus problems. Odin alone has proven to have feats that rival Galactus. YA amped Zeus failed to KO Galactus however with one botl of lighting put Galactus to his knees and punch it was clear Galactus couldn't do jack to him.
lol at an amped zeus failing to ko galactus, he brought big g to his knees with a single attack after no selling galactus attacks, and the fight ended .
I read The Destroyer's face lighting up as Odin just starting to enter the armor. The next few panels show Odin lying down and mumbling then Thor stating his father entered into Odinsleep. Looks to me that Odin was just part of the way into The Destroyer and it just wasn't instantaneous. Plus he has Mjolnir in his hand next issue and we know its not Thor in the armor.
Odin did fine up to the headbutt. He tried his best in a high risk maneuver, and failed. The fight was over and Galactus rose. The only offense Galactus did was to counter Odin's TP. That's it. The ENTIRE fight. You can't possibly argue that this contest is an accurate gauge of where they are when Fraction writes Galactus as not even reacting to Odin, literally. He literally stands there and takes Odin's best shot. Next few panels, Odin is out, and Galactus is up. It's like an extreme version of Galactus ignoring an enemy because they're beneath his notice in the sense that he doesn't react to them at all. It's poor writing and it actually makes Odin look quite bad.
If he took out Galactus while G erected shields,
or if he took out Galactus while G braced for the impact,
or if he took out Galactus while G tried to blast him away,
or if he took out Galactus while G attempted to out-maneuver him, hell even if he took out Galactus while G was trying to run away...I mean ANY reaction where you could say Galactus tried to do something but Odin's headbutt still connected, then we're talking.
But in a forum battle, Galactus doesn't stand there and wait for the best attack of his enemy, like Fraction likes to write. Galactus won't stand there without erecting any shields or preparing any defense in the bum rush. Galactus won't stand there and not react. Galactus will use actual offense or defense (wow, a novel thought), and not stand there with his pants down and wait for the attempted rape.
Really, you just sanctioned the Destroyer Armor because Odin created it and its his personal item? Then I'm glad you also said this. here, i'll re-past it for you.
And I never said Loki was animating it. I said it reacted to loki.
Yeah, Odin alone, and that's it. none of the other skyfathers have feats that even approach Odin's so why mention feats vis a vis what Galactus has done?
Oh shadeOdin. Do you even read what you type sometimes? tell me who in the entirety of Chaos War could do something to Mikaboshi? Any one? And no...you can't say Gaea-empowered hercules. That's like you putting down a weak/injured Thor because he couldn't do jack to a power-gem enabled thanos.
I'm shocked that you have an apparent affinity for Thor yet are able to use some clear context in this thread.
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Actually no it doesn't. It makes Odin look like he was Galactus' level more or less (and that's just ONE skyfather). [SPOILER - highlight to read]: As we see (according to solicits and preview scans) Odin wasn't KOed either and entered the Destroyer because he got sick of the stalemate.
Also, I want a scan saying that Galactus created the UN.
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LOL I seemed to recall Zeus being able to hand Thor his butt abd hulk with ease. Now if Zeus can pawn Thor I guess one might guess that he would do a great deal more damage then when Thor knock Galactus in the head.
i like how you bring up Chaos king power level which was only acheived by absorbing the other Gods and there realms. SO if Chaos king absorbed them to power up. It is a no brainer once again that all the skyfathers who are the must powerful on each realm would beat the living hell out of Galactus.. Good god this thread is nothing more then spite..... and only a fanboy would deny it
ACTUALLY, Odin is Galactus' level more or less in Telepathy. Let's just set aside for a moment that Odin was getting exasperated at maintaining the TP battle (what does that imply? Let the readers come to their own conclusions) and admitted that Galactus has "forced his hand" and compelled him to "finish the job" that Thor started. Literally. So whereas Thor rammed into Galactus, Odin does the same. And it works. Temporarily. On a Galactus that stands there and does nothing. And Odin knocks himself out.
Now tell me, does Odin animate the destroyer because he's switching tactics (again) because his previous tactic didn't work (again), or is he animating the destroyer because he's incapable of carrying on the fight on his own two feet? either answer is quite telling. So no...I don't see how you can say that, aside from the TP, Odin came out looking good. And...you don't get sick of a stalemate unless you feel like you can't (at the bare minimum) maintain the stalemate. The ONLY instance where we saw Odin get tired of the stalemate was the TP battle. He didn't/couldn't maintain the TP stalemate any longer and put in his force into a kill shot. THAT is where Odin gets sick of the stalemate, and not a second later. His kill shot backfired on him miserably and he runs to the destroyer next issue. Odin lost the first round. That's an incontrovertible fact. There was no stalemate (aside from the TP), it was Odin giving his all and then being forced to animate the destroyer in the upcoming issue as a ramification of the results of giving it his all. Don't act like he tried TP, it didn't work, he tried physical, it didn't work, and then now he tries the destroyer. NO. He tried TP, he had to break the stalemate. He tried physical, and it back fired on him and affected him worse than it affected Galactus. There was no stalemate after the TP. NONE.
It's an intrinsic aspect of him, which he keeps aboard his ship and which he is able to recall to his person at will. Whether he literally created it, split it from his own essence, constituted it from his energies, or just simply shat it out one day after dinner changes absolutely nothing from the fact that you're presenting the destroyer as some available option in this contest since it's in Odin's store of weapons. Since you propose this then you must also whole heartily agree that the Ultimate Nullifier is a personal weapon of Galactus' and is a viable option. I'm glad we agree.
Dude you are incredibly inept at using logic, it's scary. Galactus handed red hulk his butt, who in turn handled thor and hulk with ease. I mean these a<b<c comparisons are pointless. Yes since Galactus will be engaged with 11 sky fathers in TP battle which will allow Zeus to rush in and knock galactuzz in the head wow I'm so excited for you that you dreamt of this whole scenario and knew we'd all understand that that is exactly how it would play out in a forum battle!!1!!111
And I'm quite sympathetic for you that you like to point out that chaos king absorbed other pantheons to power up but fail to indicate the countless gods he absorbed into himself. Yep...preeeettty sure it was more than 12 in the entire story. But don't take my word for it. Go on and think that 12 sky fathers have equivalent power to Chaos King. That's why the council of godheads was hiding in a corner while Chaos King became the equal of Eternity. Yup.
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Neither side was winning the TP battle. Both were KOed after Odin charged at Galactus. Galactus chose to reform but [SPOILER - highlight to read]: as we can see from the preview scans and solicits, Odin chose to enter the Destroyer Armor instead of reform and continue fighting Galactus.. Galactus, if he really is more powerful than Odin, is just barely so. He's not leagues above him. If Odin charged Galactus like that again, then Zeus or Vishnu or some other Skyfather would be right there fresh and ready for battle and annihilate the hurt Galactus.
It's an intrinsic part of him? Then how did Reed threaten to use it against him, why was he begging Toady/Morg to give it to him?
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Writers to that for dramatic effect, or because they were too lazy to do their research. Just like Bendis seems to have forgotten that CAPTAIN ULTRA HAS GOTTEN OVER HIS GODDAMNED FEAR OF FIRE YEARS AGO!!!!!!!