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Mindship
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I think WW takes this. Bill's a mighty lad, but he's not quite Thor, and she does quite well against Superman.


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Bill for Majority. But Diana makes him work for it.


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Could go either way, you can't sleep on Diana. Too bad though huh?


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Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see how Bill can win at least 3 of the fights. Seriously what is he going to do in the fight? Diana can outmaneuver him, evade his attacks, counter with devastating combos including those with pressure points, and lasso him whenever she wants.

Bill can try to shoot her with a blast (she can deflect and send it back or simply evade the blast using speed).
Bill can try to throw the hammer at her (she can easily evade and blitz him while doesn't have the hammer or move to the side and grab the handle in flight and use it against him)
Bill can try to swing his hammer at her (again she can evade and follow with a precision combo or lasso tie).

Bill might win a lucky 1 or 2 but certainly not more than that as she has his number in anything he can do.


I can't believe I'm saying this....but this is actually pretty accurate.

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Bill 6/10


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Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I can't believe I'm saying this....but this is actually pretty accurate.
Accurate to who? The dumb, deaf and blind?


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Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see how Bill can win at least 3 of the fights. Seriously what is he going to do in the fight? Diana can outmaneuver him, evade his attacks, counter with devastating combos including those with pressure points, and lasso him whenever she wants.

Bill can try to shoot her with a blast (she can deflect and send it back or simply evade the blast using speed).
Bill can try to throw the hammer at her (she can easily evade and blitz him while doesn't have the hammer or move to the side and grab the handle in flight and use it against him)
Bill can try to swing his hammer at her (again she can evade and follow with a precision combo or lasso tie).

Bill might win a lucky 1 or 2 but certainly not more than that as she has his number in anything he can do.



i agree as powerful as bill is diana has a awnser to everything he has. speed makes it a advantage for diana. Good fight but slight edge to diana. Energy attacks are not going to phase diana they wont get through and physically she can hang with bill np. She can fly shes at least as strong as bill at least as durable and MUCH faster.

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Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see how Bill can win at least 3 of the fights. Seriously what is he going to do in the fight? Diana can outmaneuver him, evade his attacks, counter with devastating combos including those with pressure points, and lasso him whenever she wants.

Bill can try to shoot her with a blast (she can deflect and send it back or simply evade the blast using speed).
Bill can try to throw the hammer at her (she can easily evade and blitz him while doesn't have the hammer or move to the side and grab the handle in flight and use it against him)
Bill can try to swing his hammer at her (again she can evade and follow with a precision combo or lasso tie).

Bill might win a lucky 1 or 2 but certainly not more than that as she has his number in anything he can do.


Did you not read the rules about CIS?


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Originally posted by -Pr-
Did you not read the rules about CIS?
I think h1 is blind erm


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Originally posted by -Pr-
Did you not read the rules about CIS?


Of course I did. Unless you mean the rules were altered recently? Let me look:

Ok I see this:


Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.


WW is genuinely not dumb enough to not use the lasso to win or her speed/skill to evade and counter attack (especially with precision strikes). Her comic blocking/deflecting ratio when it comes to energy blasts is nearly 100%.
Bottom line:
She will use full capacity of her abilities but nothing more than what she has already shown before.


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Bill wins.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Of course I did. Unless you mean the rules were altered recently? Let me look:

Ok I see this:


Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.


WW is genuinely not dumb enough to not use the lasso to win or her speed/skill to evade and counter attack (especially with precision strikes). Her comic blocking/deflecting ratio when it comes to energy blasts is nearly 100%.
Bottom line:
She will use full capacity of her abilities but nothing more than what she has already shown before.


She will also fight in character, not how you think she should.


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She will also fight in character, not how you think she should.


I know!
Her character is to evade, block, counter, use speed, use the lasso, etc.
I didn't name anything she hasn't shown to do in comics.

The only questionable thing I said was her catching Stormbreaker and using it on Bill. She may not do this because it would give her an unfair advantage. Everything else she has done multiple times in comics.

Also know that these debates are also motivated by opinion. Many here have their own opinions (even Quanchi and Carver), but as long as there is decent evidence to support it then it should be no problem.


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Beta Ray Bill wins 5.5/10 imo .


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WW 8/10
Comparable physicality but WW is much more skillful and faster with a one shot option.


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Bill should take this.

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Originally posted by Raptor22
Bill should take this.


Not really. She's faster and more skilled and has a one shot option. Those advantages overwhelm his.


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I don't see faster, Bill was fighting and reacting to Surfer at FTL speeds, also he can go into overload mode


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