Thor Vs Mr. Majestic

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus14 pages

I also find it hilarious how you want to rely on space cheese feats because Majestic has no relative strength showings with established characters but choose to ignore Thor's space cheese feats because they have no specific number dismissing them as unquantifiable (I'd love to see you quantify Majestic's feats btw). Despite knowing full well that Thor's not a character known for that sort of thing. I.e. let's use space cheese feats only to a certain point where it only favors one side.

I thought we had mods to prevent obvious trolling? I move we make Quan a mod, he should clean this place right up. And hang Bada, just because.

While I don't agree that the World Engine feat is necessarily quantifiable, I also disagree that most of Thor's high-end feats should simply be dismissed away as hyperbole.

Anyways, as far as this thread goes, my vote goes to Majestic.

It's definitely not quantifiable (If I gave the impression that this was my argument, I apologize, it's late or early I should say), it's a true over the top comic book hyper feat. I just dislike feats being dismissed as unquantifiable, and hyperbole because it's less realistic then...moving a planet.

I might as well vote for Majestic too if we're going to ignore Thor's high end feats. Of course Thor's resisted the weight of half a planet easily, overpowered gravity akin to a Neutron Star and other shit but I bet it's all hyperbole as well.

Fair enough, personally I still vote for Thor if we had to pick one (No surprise there though) as I see no reason why Majestic would be superior as Thor can match him in space cheese and has other relative feats to fall back on that Majestros doesn't. Iyo of course.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup. The World Tree isn't potent due to it's size, it's the Cosmic Axis of the Multiverse, it holds creation together (Like Atlas does for the Olympians).
It is a cosmic axis for nine realms which are actually pocket dimensions.
And Thor did it while weakened. He spun the engine, reversing time and Ragnarok, overpowering the tree's will. Definitely not more impressive then moving a planet because we can't attach a number to it.
Here is its actual size as shown on panel and not speculation or something.

Impressive isn't it? FYI, Ragnarok is a simple Asgard related phenomena and not multiversal.

Prove it then.
Just proved.

😛

Yes, stuff like previous quotes, and what you meant clearly aren't important. Who cares what we proclaim our stance is right? I should just flip flop my stance from thread to thread like you seem to do.
You can believe whatever you want.

If you think Thor's bare fist > Mjolnir that's your prerogative.
That's what you implied.
I'm simply pointing out that Mjolnir = Thor's fists has been shown to be the case in comics as stupid, illogical, and nonsensical as that may appear.
Show me a single statement about it. Heck even an allusion would be suffice too.
Because, it's comics. You think a strawman will change that?
Haha.

That's my point, he hit Gladiator with a spinning Mjolnir hit and the writer used it to portray conclusive strength equality, supporting my previous point.
Not really. Gladiator thought to himself about striking power of thor and concluded that he was nearly as strong as he was. If thor had punched him then hammered him, your point would've been supported.

I'd challenge you to a battle zone of Majestic vs. Thor to see how confident you are in a place where you can't troll nonstop but you'd decline.
I like how anything opposing your views is just trolling. Very cute.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I also find it hilarious how you want to rely on space cheese feats because Majestic has no relative strength showings with established characters but choose to ignore Thor's space cheese feats because they have no specific number dismissing them as unquantifiable (I'd love to see you quantify Majestic's feats btw). Despite knowing full well that Thor's not a character known for that sort of thing. I.e. let's use space cheese feats only to a certain point where it only favors one side.

I thought we had mods to prevent obvious trolling? I move we make Quan a mod, he should clean this place right up. And hang Bada, just because.


Why is it hilarious? Not my fault that nearly all of Thor's feats are hyperbolic in nature due to the nature of the writing at the time.

PPL like Thor and Superman have so many showings in their tier it's hard to overcome.

That said with Majestic's showings I would say they are close but Majestic>Thor, which doesnt mean he would throw Thor around just my perspective on relative strength.

Majestros not only solo moved a planet (one being Jupiter) he moved a solidified star from one solar system to the other. That IMO is one of the best herald level quantifiable strength feats.

It is true, Maj doesn't have many run ins with non WS characters, but the ones he has are pretty impressive. He worked over Captain Atom without a ton of trouble, beat The Eradicator, and later (via wits) took him down in Fortess mode. And during his encounter with Superman they seemed relatively even across the board, and considered one another to be peers.

Based on the encounter with Superman alone, I would say that's enough to put him above Thor in strength, but physical might is obviously not Thor's only option.

This one could go either way IMO, and if Thor uses his power set effectively, I think it would go 50/50 split. A physical encounter would go to Mr. Majestic.

lol

Smh @ thread.

Abhi ruins threads. just ruins them.
Carver, where did you get that sig? I want one just like that but with Hulk riding reverse cowgirl

Originally posted by Raisen
Abhi ruins threads. just ruins them.
Carver, where did you get that sig? I want one just like that but with Hulk riding reverse cowgirl

Just because you disagree with his pov and he doesn't drink the Kool aid doesn't mean he ruins threads ; I disagree with you.

I'd say Majestic is consistently stronger than Thor but Thor rises to the occasion often enough to make this a good debate.

Originally posted by Raisen
Abhi ruins threads. just ruins them.
Carver, where did you get that sig? I want one just like that but with Hulk riding reverse cowgirl

😂 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
It is a cosmic axis for nine realms which are actually pocket dimensions. Here is its actual size as shown on panel and not speculation or something.

Impressive isn't it? FYI, Ragnarok is a simple Asgard related phenomena and not multiversal.

😂

Yggrdasil is the Axis Mundi or Cosmic Axis; it exists in all planes of reality, connects all the worlds and it holds the cosmos together.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor73.jpg

Tampering and unleashing its power literally warps all of reality, and if not careful it can destroy all of creation.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree5.jpg

The Cosmic Axis also connects to not only the Nine Worlds but a much larger Metaverse structrue:

The feat was impressive because the World Tree is powerful. For something a bit more recent, the entire Galactus arc as about the World Seed, that will bloom and create the next cycle of creation as everything ends, it's power is unending:

Also note that Asgard and all the Nine Worlds are the hearts of their own fully formed Universes like Earth is for the 616, Asgard's is known as Asgard-Space as of Fraction.The Tenth World came from their own Universe which was suffering Entropic Death:

The feat was never impressive because the World Tree is big, it was impressive because the World Tree is powerful. Also, the World Tree is infinitely big, it spans all of space/time, what we see is just a visual representation. For example:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16179239/The_Mighty_Thor_1_013-14.jpg.html
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor73.jpg

Now, us knowing all of this, knowing that the World Tree is the heart of pretty much creation, Thor still overpowers it's will:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine4.jpg

Fyi, it would have been the end of the world, and not just Asgard, the entire point was to create post-human Godlings in the aftermath. Whether that mean's Earth and the Universe it resides in, is up for debate.

Should have stuck to ignoring the feat instead of trying to lowball it as that requires actually discussing it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just proved.

😛

Are you going to prove it or not?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You can believe whatever you want.

That's what you implied.

I have evidence, you can't make that evidence disappear simply by creating a straw man. Thor's fists have shown to rival Mjolnir, he was very prone to putting away the hammer and beating the shit out of an opponent over the years.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Show me a single statement about it. Heck even an allusion would be suffice too. Haha.

So, I'm guessing the Prime/Conner thing is over yes?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. Gladiator thought to himself about striking power of thor and concluded that he was nearly as strong as he was. If thor had punched him then hammered him, your point would've been supported.

What? That's a lie, do so again and I'm tempted to report you. Gladiator said, specifically, that Thor was his equal in strength after being hit by Mjolnir:
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/R-O-O/media/Thor/ThorvsGladiator3.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/R-O-O/media/Thor/ThorvsGladiator4.jpg.html

There was no caveat about striking power, or that Thor was only nearly as strong as him. What? If Thor had punched him, that would probably disprove my point as we had no idea what the writer was using as his measuring stick but here to come to the conclusion of strength equality, Thor's hammer strike was used. As if it was a punch.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I like how anything opposing your views is just trolling. Very cute.

Figured it would be a no.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
I'd say Majestic is consistently stronger than Thor but Thor rises to the occasion often enough to make this a good debate.

Hmm, how is Majestic consistently stronger then Thor?

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Majestros not only solo moved a planet (one being Jupiter) he moved a solidified star from one solar system to the other. That IMO is one of the best herald level quantifiable strength feats.

It is true, Maj doesn't have many run ins with non WS characters, but the ones he has are pretty impressive. He worked over Captain Atom without a ton of trouble, beat The Eradicator, and later (via wits) took him down in Fortess mode. And during his encounter with Superman they seemed relatively even across the board, and considered one another to be peers.

Based on the encounter with Superman alone, I would say that's enough to put him above Thor in strength, but physical might is obviously not Thor's only option.

This one could go either way IMO, and if Thor uses his power set effectively, I think it would go 50/50 split. A physical encounter would go to Mr. Majestic.

Wait, Majestic fought Superman? When? I know they had a fight as Superman Blue but nothing there indicates superiority to Thor strength wise (Most of it was off panel even).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂

Yggrdasil is the Axis Mundi or Cosmic Axis; it exists in all planes of reality, connects all the worlds and it holds the cosmos together.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor73.jpg

Tampering and unleashing its power literally warps all of reality, and if not careful it can destroy all of creation.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree5.jpg

The Cosmic Axis also connects to not only the Nine Worlds but a much larger Metaverse structrue:

The feat was impressive because the World Tree is powerful. For something a bit more recent, the entire Galactus arc as about the World Seed, that will bloom and create the next cycle of creation as everything ends, it's power is unending:

Also note that Asgard and all the Nine Worlds are the hearts of their own fully formed Universes like Earth is for the 616, Asgard's is known as Asgard-Space as of Fraction.The Tenth World came from their own Universe which was suffering Entropic Death:

The feat was never impressive because the World Tree is big, it was impressive because the World Tree is powerful. Also, the World Tree is infinitely big, it spans all of space/time, what we see is just a visual representation. For example:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16179239/The_Mighty_Thor_1_013-14.jpg.html
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor73.jpg

Now, us knowing all of this, knowing that the World Tree is the heart of pretty much creation, Thor still overpowers it's will:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine4.jpg

Fyi, it would have been the end of the world, and not just Asgard, the entire point was to create post-human Godlings in the aftermath. Whether that mean's Earth and the Universe it resides in, is up for debate.

Should have stuck to ignoring the feat instead of trying to lowball it as that requires actually discussing it.

Are you going to prove it or not?

I have evidence, you can't make that evidence disappear simply by creating a straw man. Thor's fists have shown to rival Mjolnir, he was very prone to putting away the hammer and beating the shit out of an opponent over the years.

So, I'm guessing the Prime/Conner thing is over yes?

What? That's a lie, do so again and I'm tempted to report you. Gladiator said, specifically, that Thor was his equal in strength after being hit by Mjolnir:
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/R-O-O/media/Thor/ThorvsGladiator3.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/R-O-O/media/Thor/ThorvsGladiator4.jpg.html

There was no caveat about striking power, or that Thor was only nearly as strong as him. What? If Thor had punched him, that would probably disprove my point as we had no idea what the writer was using as his measuring stick but here to come to the conclusion of strength equality, Thor's hammer strike was used. As if it was a punch.

Figured it would be a no.

I get that you feel the need to prove him wrong, but you didn't have to absolutely crush his soul in the process

😂

😂

Had to be thorough. Although there's probably more evidence I should collect and post.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why is it hilarious? Not my fault that nearly all of Thor's feats are hyperbolic in nature due to the nature of the writing at the time.

So ignore all of Thor's feats basically. Why even make the thread when the only thing you'll accept is Thor moving a building or something? Obviously Majestic is stronger.

Seriously, how idiotic is it to compare space cheese feats specifically but ignore pretty much anything as hyperbolic or as incalculable? Who are you to decide what counts and what doesn't? Who are you to decide Thor moving the World Tree shouldn't count but Majestic moving a planet should even though Thor's feat is infinitely more impressive?

But poor old Majestic doesn't have any relative showings so we should ignore all of Thor's battle feats too apparently. Except when it's a Doomsday thread, then only team busting counts. Or I bet if I make a Drax vs. Majestic thread suddenly relative showings prove Majestic is superior. So transparent, up your trolling, it's no fun when I can predict what you post before you post it.

This thread would cause Admiral Ackbar to have an epileptic fit.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Majestros not only solo moved a planet (one being Jupiter) he moved a solidified star from one solar system to the other.
Majestic didn't move Jupiter-- he altered its composition at the atomic level via HV. The only planets he physically moved were Mercury and Earth. I also don't recall him moving a solidified star, but rather, a star ingot.

That said, Majestic can and has moved planets across the solar system(along with numerous moons.) Imo he is stronger than Thor in a contest of brute strength.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
And during his encounter with Superman they seemed relatively even across the board, and considered one another to be peers.
Hopefully you're not referring to their brief scuffle in Dreamwar..? That's non-canon.

I hope Thor moves a planet soon because people seem to hold it in very high esteem. Even though Thor has more impressive strength feats then Majestic's planet moving it seems to inherently impress people more. Never quite understood that but whatever.