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zopzop
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Originally posted by leonidas
i thought that shot was some kind of sucker punch or something. what happened just before that scene, we do know?

What scene? The Namor/Simon fight?

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Jul 29th, 2017 02:48 AM

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riv6672
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Not really. Think about it, his brush with death warped him and he had a legitimate fear of it (who can blame him). The rage/cowardice dynamic was him attempting to fight the fear but ultimately having it overwhelm him. Loved classic Simon.

Same.
To me he acted like a normal person thrust into a super heroic situation should.
Who TF wouldnt have issues after having their life's work destroyed, being experimented on, given god like powers, suffering multiple deaths and resurrections...?
Most characters seem to adjust way too easily to shit like that.

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zopzop
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Same.
To me he acted like a normal person thrust into a super heroic situation should.
Who TF wouldnt have issues after having their life's work destroyed, being experimented on, given god like powers, suffering multiple deaths and resurrections...?
Most characters seem to adjust way too easily to shit like that.

Yup. One freaking death/resurrection event would phuck a person up mentally for life. This poor bastard had it happen to him multiple times.

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Jul 29th, 2017 04:31 AM

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^^^No joke.
Then there's the 'my brain waves (or some such) got used to bring an android to life' thing.
Forgot that one.

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Jul 29th, 2017 04:45 AM

zopzop
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^^^No joke.
Then there's the 'my brain waves (or some such) got used to bring an android to life' thing.
Forgot that one.

And that android goes on to steal the woman he loves. thumb down

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Jul 29th, 2017 04:53 AM

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Didnt Simon steal Wanda?

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^^^which caused him no end of emotional turmoil.

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And that android goes on to steal the woman he loves.

Oh and the 'my brother, my frikking brother, now dresses like a fetish pirate and is intent on killing me' thing.
Good grief, poor Simon!

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Jul 29th, 2017 05:08 AM

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As far as feats and victories for Simon, i'm pretty sure he had others that arent mentioned here. Yet. But, he has been around so long, floating in and out of stories and a lot of THAT taking place in titles that were not his, it isnt easy to track. It's not as simple to get the hits u want when searching, as it is for some of the more popular characters.

I know Count Nefaria aced Simon, but I'm pretty sure he has some other panels somewhere, where he took it to Nefaria. It was still his green uniform, the top getting torn off, finishing shirtless. I remember it. I think Nefaria couldn't believe he came back again and was holding his own.
I was able to find this:
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He didn't sucker-punch Namor. The fight paused and Wonder Man took him out and Whizzer said he thought Namor might have come to his senses. Simon basically says "maybe maybe not", the fight is over abd thats what matters. Something along those lines. As long as he won.
This is how it went:
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And u saw how it ended.

Then, there have been comments/comment about Simon's punches being comparable to Thor's hammer strikes.
Was able to find this, but not the panel before:
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Didnt Simon steal Wanda?

Other way around. Simon and Wanda fell for each other way back in his "green suit" days. Then, she fell for Vision.

Jul 29th, 2017 07:04 AM

Horrificus
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And, right back at Nefaria AGAIN. This time, using Cap's shield:
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:12 AM

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As far as feats and victories for Simon, i'm pretty sure he had others that arent mentioned here. Yet. But, he has been around so long, floating in and out of stories and a lot of THAT taking place in titles that were not his, it isnt easy to track. It's not as simple to get the hits u want when searching, as it is for some of the more popular characters.

So true.
Its fun sometimes, to search them out, but not when you're trying to respond in a thread thats moving along at anything like a steady pace!

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Jul 29th, 2017 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Horrificus
As far as feats and victories for Simon, i'm pretty sure he had others that arent mentioned here. Yet. But, he has been around so long, floating in and out of stories and a lot of THAT taking place in titles that were not his, it isnt easy to track. It's not as simple to get the hits u want when searching, as it is for some of the more popular characters.

I know Count Nefaria aced Simon, but I'm pretty sure he has some other panels somewhere, where he took it to Nefaria. It was still his green uniform, the top getting torn off, finishing shirtless. I remember it. I think Nefaria couldn't believe he came back again and was holding his own.
I was able to find this:
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He didn't sucker-punch Namor. The fight paused and Wonder Man took him out and Whizzer said he thought Namor might have come to his senses. Simon basically says "maybe maybe not", the fight is over abd thats what matters. Something along those lines. As long as he won.
This is how it went:
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And u saw how it ended.

Then, there have been comments/comment about Simon's punches being comparable to Thor's hammer strikes.
Was able to find this, but not the panel before:
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ok, cool. i thought i remembered that fight differently. doesn't really change my mind on this fight or the namor/simon issue. i still think they are all so close as to be practically indistinguishable. who knows how long namor was out of water there? ben's hung multiple times with namor, and ben has stated himself he is stronger than simon, but there is a scene where simon is shown stronger, sooo.... yeah. this fight is a toss up still imo, as a fight between simon and namor would be.

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zopzop
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He didn't sucker-punch Namor.

He kind of did though, this is what happened prior to the end :
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Notice, Namor knocked Simon out the fight long enough to be distracted and have an entire conversation with Whizzer before Simon sucker attacked him with his back turned.

People are also forgetting, Namor was dying and needed Serum from Dr Doom to keep him alive (the suit Reed designed was wrecked by Doom) :
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So Simon sucker attacked a dying Namor.

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Jul 29th, 2017 02:23 PM

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Didn't Simon choke out Rulk?

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Didn't Simon choke out Rulk?

Yep, and he almost killed Wolverine in a fit of rage, and KO'd Namor regardless if it was a sucker punch or not. How can you not love the guy?

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And than there was this=

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Jul 29th, 2017 07:27 PM

zopzop
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And than there was this=

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Becareful people don't misunderstand that scan. He couldn't damage Ultron's adamantium body, he just rattled his weaker inner parts :
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:40 PM

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So he's strong AND smart!

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Becareful people don't misunderstand that scan. He couldn't damage Ultron's adamantium body, he just rattled his weaker inner parts :
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Another myth busted.

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He kind of did though, this is what happened prior to the end :
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Notice, Namor knocked Simon out the fight long enough to be distracted and have an entire conversation with Whizzer before Simon sucker attacked him with his back turned.

People are also forgetting, Namor was dying and needed Serum from Dr Doom to keep him alive (the suit Reed designed was wrecked by Doom) :
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So Simon sucker attacked a dying Namor.