Bayonetta, Kratos, and Sephiroth vs. Link and Sheik (SSBB)

In case you'd missed it, thats the Link we're using. See the title 'Link and Sheik (SSBB)'. And I take it it does affect him, so no immunity for Link.

Here's why it's a terrible claim: Snake can throw Mario in gameplay, Sonic, too. Kirby, who is 8 inches tall, is nearly the same height as Mario and Luigi.

Every character can use every move on every character in gameplay, your argument from gameplay mechanics, in a non canon game, is not a valid one, otherwise Yoshi can turn into an egg, and the master sword has anti-gravity powers, every character can put up a magic bubble which absorbs all damage, and jump on air once they're already airborne.

Gameplay mechs.

Dair=down air, btw.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Thanks Keollyn ^^
Yeah Bay's stronger then Sheik.

The most impressive of those would be catching the satellite, and that wouldn't do as much damage as that laser.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Definitely. Now onto speed feats.

Whatever it is we can just add 'Witch time' to amp it above team 2.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually I think those feats still put Sheik higher, just not to a high degree.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Arwing > Gorgon laser. 😐

Punching the cockpit glass if an airwing is above that? In Brawl that poking claw on Metaknight's ship and Rayquaza's attack destroy Fox's.

It made it crash, but destroying wasn't anywhere close.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Whatever it is we can just add 'Witch time' to amp it above team 2.

Punching the cockpit glass if an airwing is above that? In Brawl that poking claw on Metaknight's ship and Rayquaza's attack destroy Fox's.

Whatever it is we can just add 'Witch time' to amp it above team 2.

Bayo's got point blank bullet timing feats outside of witch time--the same thing that freezes rain.

Arwing > Gorgon laser.

In Smash?

This is a terrible claim, also Link gets his non-SSBB feats here, as well.

Link isn't the mastersword, now is he? awepedo (goad, goad) edit: Spelling on goad?

Here's why it's a terrible claim: Snake can throw Mario in gameplay, Sonic, too. Kirby, who is 8 inches tall, is nearly the same height as Mario and Luigi.

Relevence? They aren't the original characters, but are versions of themselves that allow them to fight (in brawl).

Every character can use every move on every character in gameplay, your argument from gameplay mechanics,

Gameplay mechanic> Absolutely zip. Why don't you try to prove he is immune to TK rather than I prove he isn't. Thats how debates work. And it would have been easy for the developers to make him immune in gameplay, them not doing so just shows he isn't.

otherwise Yoshi can turn into an egg and the master sword has anti-gravity powers, every character can put up a magic bubble which absorbs all damage, and jump on air once they're already airborne.

Gameplay mechs.

In Smash. Also, double standards. Aren't you the guy who passes off Dark Link and Links gameplay feats off as reflective of their true abilities. Like the sword jump and timing Link's attacks?

In Smash. Also, double standards. Aren't you the guy who passes off Dark Link and Links gameplay feats off as reflective of their true abilities. Like the sword jump and timing Link's attacks?

Also, timing Link's attacks comes from a cutscene. The master sword protects Link, that's one of it's powers, and one of the main reasons he can actually beat Ganondorf who possesses an asinine wide array of broken abilities.

This is getting worse, the fanon is unbelievable.

heres an interesting Bayo bullet dodge:

YouTube video

2:08

Note in this vid Jeanne is not rapidly fiering erratickly with an automatic weapon from an odd angle wihle bayonetta is running at her.....shes pretty much point blank, just a few meters away and the bullet when bayonetta dodges quite easily was what, a few inches from her nose?

I think theres a better one somewhere, where she fights a few enemies before doing it although I am not sure.

What about the rest Scream? uhuh

An event which occurs in gameplay is not necessarily a mechanic. Being able to grab in a fighting game, is a mechanic. The day a normal human can actually grab and throw Donkey Kong is the day I'll eat my hat.

I'll grant you that some feats are exaggerated or toned down in gameplay (like Vincent's speed and strength irritatingly disappearing when you play him, grrrr!), but flat out immunities can't be exagerrated etc If a character displays immunity in a cutscene to fire and then a fireball does damage in gameplay then they obviously aren't as immune as all that.

like Like-Likes being able to eat you.

They'll never get past my tin-foil hat! smurph

. The master sword protects Link, that's one of it's powers, and one of the main reasons he can actually beat Ganondorf who possesses an asinine wide array of broken abilities.

I'm interested in this now, becuase when I was lurking a year and a half ago, I recall, that you guys just said he was immune becuase Ganon never tries to TK him. Is this accurate? I know you guys are smarter than that, so if not then what shows him as immune.

Anyway, SSBB MS/Link does not equal Regular MS/Link. As you said they're poor, inaccurate representations and non-canon anyway.

Note in this vid Jeanne is not rapidly fiering erratickly with an automatic weapon from an odd angle wihle bayonetta is running at her.....shes pretty much point blank, just a few meters away and the bullet when bayonetta dodges quite easily was what, a few inches from her nose?

Extremely impressive. Bayonetta def. solos.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I know you guys are smarter than that,

You do? damn must have missed the post....

Originally posted by Burning thought
This is getting worse, the fanon is unbelievable.

heres an interesting Bayo bullet dodge:

YouTube video

2:08

Note in this vid Jeanne is not rapidly fiering erratickly with an automatic weapon from an odd angle wihle bayonetta is running at her.....shes pretty much point blank, just a few meters away and the bullet when bayonetta dodges quite easily was what, a few inches from her nose?

I think theres a better one somewhere, where she fights a few enemies before doing it although I am not sure.

The one she dodges when she's talking with Balder is the best one I can think of.

The reason: Balder used witch time just before the bullets was released on Bayo and she still dodged it.

I'm interested in this now, becuase when I was lurking a year and a half ago, I recall, that you guys just said he was immune becuase Ganon never tries to TK him. Is this accurate? I know you guys are smarter than that, so if not then what shows him as immune.

YouTube video Just one of many examples. 😐 It also protects him from Twilight, reflects magic, cuts through barriers, freezes time, (which Ganon later proves himself immune to. D:!) ect.

People claim we argue Ganon can't because he doesn't, but he clearly does, and it doesn't worek, and we've seen the MS protect him before.

Extremely impressive. Bayonetta def. solos.

You do? damn must have missed the post....

I was including you too, so's you know.

Also, I saw no TK in that vid. Can you point it out to me?

Originally posted by Keollyn
The one she dodges when she's talking with Balder is the best one I can think of.

The reason: [b]Balder used witch time just before the bullets was released on Bayo and she still dodged it. [/B]

No, it slowed Bayo down. Hold on I'll find it.

Edit: Oh it's you... you probably would just say 'it's still slow'

Originally posted by Keollyn
The one she dodges when she's talking with Balder is the best one I can think of.

The reason: [b]Balder used witch time just before the bullets was released on Bayo and she still dodged it. [/B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WcFDNbzX5E#t=9m20s

Bayonetta solos. 😐

'Also, I saw no TK in that vid. Can you point it out to me?'

Ha-ha. You do realise that's the logic of my opposition at work, right? They claim lasers are slow. (joy!) It's just as easy to do it to bullets.

Nothing points to them being slow. Your argument has no evidence. 😬

Originally posted by Keollyn
No, it slowed Bayo down. Hold on I'll find it.

Edit: Oh it's you... you probably would just say 'it's still slow'

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bayonetta solos. 😐

'Also, I saw no TK in that vid. Can you point it out to me?'

Nothing points to them being slow. Your argument has no evidence. 😬

Also, did you watch the video? Ganon attacks Link, who is protected. This is just one of many instances of the sword protecting him.

Nothing points to lasers being slow, either, but they can make that claim, apparently.